We know that a lot of politicians (and media folks) in the US are pushing to ban TikTok. It has seemed notable, of course, that European countries don’t seem all that worried about TikTok, which sh…

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      They banned it on staff devices, but I haven’t heard anything about them considering banning it for everyone. Do you have any details?

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          It just calls to talk from what I can see. Nothing even resembling a legal proposal. And EU already can ban it via DSA which actually protects consumers instead of being magical “national security”.

          Also, EU requires unanimity and not everyone thinks singling out TikTok instead of all corporate social media is the right action. This is not going anywhere in the EU.

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            … That’s how things start. You generally talk about things first, you have a conversation, and then you make a proposal. This whole thing seems to be complaining about timing or something. The US went really fast to the actual proposal for some reason, other countries are still talking.

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              1. It’s just a call for a talk by the intelligence committee, not an actual talk.
              2. It’s happening on local level in Germany, not the EU.
              3. A bunch of EU countries banned TikTok from government devices, EU banned it from staff member devices, but at no point there was talk about general ban of TikTok under DSA or new law.

              EU has started the process of banning it as well.

              If you have any information to prove me wrong, I’m open to hearing it.

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                Again, the start of everything is to talk. That you are not satisfied that the talks are not fast enough, or widespread enough, or whatever doesn’t mean what you are claiming.

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            Talking about it in our parliament is one of the first steps to take for laws.

            Also, EU requires unanimity and not everyone thinks singling out TikTok instead of all corporate social media is the right action. This is not going anywhere in the EU.

            Not exactly wrong but not right either.

            Most weren’t in favor of shit like the north stream pipeline, they didn’t veto it however. We will see.

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              By their own admission, they need TikTok:

              And is it even being brought to the full parliament? The article only mentioned intelligence committee.

              Most weren’t in favor of shit like the north stream pipeline, they didn’t veto it however.

              Bad comparison. Unlike with banning TikTok, which would piss off a big part of EU population and give nothing in return, the pipeline offered cheaper energy prices, which all countries could take a political win on, despite the many valid concerns it had.

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                Yes Scholz is a idiot, i know. He either is gone for solid months or when he is somewhere he talks shit.

                AFD literally uses that shit as propaganda Mashine. Wich it is. And baning it for security reasons would fuck off some addicts but it wouldn’t be a problem, as seen in the enormous protests regarding the “new” (illigal) copyright legislation (article 13) they don’t give a single shit about what some people think or say. And nobody would go protest for tiktok.

                And yes, the comparison was not perfect, but its a better known example, France for example was very much against it until Germany agreed to label nuclear as green energy.

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    Where is the tldr bot :( Indian social media has gotten very toxic. It was brain rot trends during tiktok now it’s just straight up public harassment content openly broadcasted on Instagram, Facebook and yt shorts. The comment sections are even worse.

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    I think we need to separate “social media” from “giant corporation social media”. News groups were “social media”. Bulletin boards are as well. It’s clear the damage being done is from Meta, TikTok, etc. so maybe instead of banning, everybody sue them for damages. And taxes. Hit them where it hurts, the pocketbook.

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      I call Facebook/Instagram/TikTok/LinkedIn and all that garbage “parasocial media” to separate it from forums and stuff. They are just grotesque places of self-representation, or rather conjuring up an image of oneself that soothes cognitive dissonance. A dreamworld with little social aspects other than that you may browse others’ fake self-image and feel-good escapism escapades.

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    It would’ve been great if the new, Indian, TikTok alternatives had been federated. They could’ve all built up a network together. I wonder why they didn’t do it. Money? Greed? Ignorance?

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