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The comments by US House representative Tim Walberg of Michigan drew condemnation from progressive political quarters, including from some who expressed disbelief that a former Christian pastor would advocate for what they called the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.
WWJD: Love thy brother. Nuke thy neighbor.
Christians are fucked in the head.
WWJD: Love thy brother. Nuke thy neighbor.
Not only that, but nuke the region that was the home to Jesus.
End-of-world evangelicals want the world to end. Global pollution, climate change, human rights, et al. don’t matter because rapture or some crazy shit like that.
Imagine being a genocidal monster and genuinely thinking God is going to come and save you for being good. If he came, he would take one look at you, charge up 2 million volts of electricity from the sky at your location and then smite the ever-loving shit out of you into fine ash.
Sad because it is true.
God sometimes when I read stuff like this as a post I reflexively down vote because I hate it so much until I remember it’s just a post calling attention to someone being a piece of shit and not agreeing with them. I up voted again to fix it lol
I have this same reaction quite often…
Yep. I reach for the Disagree button before I realize it’s a valuable/valueless button. And this shit is of immense value for history.
It just occurred to me that there are probably people who look at those bombings - after the war was effectively over BTW - not as evil (my view), nor as a regrettable but necessary way to avert American deaths, but as an actual heroic act.
Jesus, how do I live in a world where there are people like that running around having normal lives…?
If you were in the other thread about these bombings yesterday, you’d see that viewpoint is basically what the US teaches in school. It’s disturbing to see that so many people actually believe this was for the good of humanity.
That continues to be my parents’ view (I suspect the same is true for many of our parents). It’ll be a few generations before the fiction around Hiroshima gets wiped away. Hell, the '21 Tulsa massacre is only now getting some actual cultural awareness, and that’s only because it was depicted in the first scene of The Watchmen.
but as an actual heroic act
They’ve been doing it since at least 2014:
Israelis Watch Bombs Drop on Gaza From Front-Row Seats
(Sorry for the nyt article, here’s the guardian as well)
The argument doesn’t just include American deaths, but Japanese deaths as well. You may not agree, but the us just finished in Europe far past the point where the war was effectively over, and there was the belief that the Japanese would always take it further than the germans. Part of it was the japanese war strategy. They wanted the enemy to think they would have to cut through them to the last man woman and child, to get them to give up. There was a belief that maybe a shock would do something, but there was also doubt to that. 7 more bombs were going to be ready to soften up japanese defenses during downfall. They thought they would have to do much more damage.
Edit: I messed up my words in a way that subtlety changed the meaning of a sentence.
That’s not the real reason. It was meant to scare the USSR, Japan was already defeated.
subtlety
subtly
What would you have done instead?
It’s really easy to Monday morning quarterback this sort of thing, but I don’t understand why he didn’t go with “bomb an unpopulated Island” for the first bomb and THEN maybe bomb a city if Japan didn’t surrender shortly after that.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/trumanatomicbomb.htm
Keep in mind the European part of WWII was over at this point. We had a ton of suddenly available war fighting equipment and personnel.
And the USSR was also free to pivot more Eastward. Plus our smaller allies.
I’m sure that Truman didn’t do it from a place of spite or hate per se. But he definitely didn’t do it from a place of compassion for fellow humans, either.
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Least genocidal conservative
Doesn’t the congressman know that you aren’t supposed to say the plan outloud? You are just supposed to provide all the bombs and arms required no strings attached. These new republicans just don’t understand decorum.
It’s not like anyone in the Israeli government was hiding the fact that their plan was genocide either. It’s only the state department and mainstream media that are pretending to be shocked that there’s ‘collateral damage’.
American Nazi
Average American power holder
He voted nay to “Providing for the expulsion of Representative George Santos from the United States House of Representatives.” Another old fart that graduated bible college
See: America has Nazis too!
Always has.
I don’t think the Man from Galilee would appreciate any of this.
I thought it was a magic dragon.
He’s just saying the quiet part out loud.
The whole region should be placed under international administration, just like Germany after the war.
It was before, under the League of nations. Jewish terrorists under Irgun and Stern group (which later formed IDF) bombed the international administration to get land and get them out. When England gave up, Israel took the land
It is the international meddling that caused the problem
he should be removed from office.
he should be removed to a jail cell.
Yeah, in Canada this would already be unambiguously criminal. Once the new law passes it will also carry a potential sentence of life, which is based.
He should be thrown from a bridge, actually.
Yeah, we ran that bridge over with a ship…
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Asshole.
how is this any different from Genocide Joe’s or any congressperson’s position? Israel has already dropped the equivalent of several nukes on Gaza, and they still have the US’s unconditional backing.
Genocide Joe is much more polished than this loser. It’a genocide with American characteristics.
