Michael Macartney, 50, confessed to the BBC his role in an extreme monkey torture network.

A ringleader in a global monkey torture network exposed by the BBC has been charged by US federal prosecutors.

Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias “Torture King”, was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.

Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.

Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.

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Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Perhaps you should try re-reading the thread. They wrote:

      Postulating that members of a species should be shot because they otherwise destroy the environment is thin fucking ice as a human lol

      To which I replied that they don’t understand the meaning of the word “postulate”, as no-one has postulated anything. They don’t argue that, because they can’t argue the facts I linked, so they get pissy and start whatabouting about completely irrelevant things, which you then defend as “a joke”, which it was not.

      • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 months ago

        I think you are still not getting their meaning. Given a species that has a negative impact on ecology the postulate is that the appropriate response is to cull that species. A pragmatic stance. But when generalized instead of specifying deer and when taking into consideration the negative impact that large populations of humans have we get to the “thin ice”. Yes it’s still deflecting from addressing your point but they were not denying the damage that deer can do and a postulate was made.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          11·
          8 months ago

          No, he’s saying that I am POSTULATING things that are actually facts.

          Postulating that members of a species should be shot because they otherwise destroy the environment

          which is in contradiction with your pseudobabble:

          the postulate is that the appropriate response is to cull that species.

          No-one has talked about culling at any point. They are saying that I am MERELY POSTULATING that hunting is indeed beneficial for the environment, whereas in reality, I am observing a fact.

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
              11·
              8 months ago

              You accidentally ignored the more important part.

              #They are saying that I am MERELY POSTULATING that hunting is indeed beneficial for the environment, whereas in reality, I am observing a fact.

                • Dasus@lemmy.world
                  11·
                  8 months ago

                  Just like he’s avoiding the mistake, so now are you.

                  I did not postulate anything, nor did they postulate anything. They were wrong in saying I “postulated” something and you were wrong in thinking they postulated something. No-one postulated anything. I stated a fact.

                  • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
                    2·
                    8 months ago

                    It seems like you are avoiding acknowledging that shooting deer for population management is culling. So someone did at some point talk about it. Right?

                    There is a postulate. The postulate is that shooting is the course of action to be taken to achieve population management.