• Mango@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Mice are cute, but dogs communicate trust and love for us so very clearly. Betraying such trust is for monsters.

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      8 months ago

      dogs communicate trust and love for us so very clearly

      So do cows. And pigs are smarter than dogs.

      The line between food and friend is arbitrary.

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        8 months ago

        Pigs are better problem solvers than dogs, that doesn’t mean they’re carte blanche smarter. Dogs have a level of social intelligence and selected-for ability to interact with humans that no other species does.

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          8 months ago

          Pigs definitely have a social intelligence that at least rivals those of dogs, if it doesn’t surpass it. Just because we keep them in a way that traumatises them from an early age on, doesn’t mean pigs aren’t socially intelligent. Wild boar and the like form highly complex social structures and are quite able to communicate in between one another. The only thing pigs actually express more than dogs is the utter disregard for anything but their own survival when under duress. This however might be explained by the way they reproduce. Pigs are K-Strategists, whereas dogs aren’t.

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            8 months ago

            The best piece of literature I’ve seen regarding cow intelligence and social capacity was measured in terms of their ability to bond and empathize with other cows, their ability to bond with humans didn’t come close to that of dogs

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              8 months ago

              Rats form extremely close bonds with their human companions, and anecdotally I have family in Mexico who have told me about their cows that have tried cheering them up when they were sad.

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          8 months ago

          I see what you’re saying, but when we say “smarter” in English and we typically mean problem solving, not social skills.

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      8 months ago

      I’m not sure about mice but rats can 100 percent do the same as dogs and are smarter than some breeds of dogs.

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        8 months ago

        I used to have some rats, and I agree. Can’t deny the stigma associated though.

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      8 months ago

      This is the answer. We domesticated them. We’re responsible to them. Collectively we owe it to them not to cause them undue harm.