I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    We can take steps toward that with Joe Biden as president. Not as fast as you or I would want. But we’ll get none of that, and probably the opposite of some of it, if Trump is elected.

    How? If anything I’d argue the exact opposite

    Democratic politicians in blue states may actually make a few half assed attempts at protecting marginalized people if they have Trump to force their hands into opposing him while with Genocide Joe in office red states will still implement project 2025 unimpeded and the libs will suck so hard at messaging as usual that chuds may even manage to take over a blue state