• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I’m not a Zionist.

      Good. Could you stop being a defeatist and counterfactual doomer, then?

      This is a big issue with people who have just joined the movement

      I’ve been Pro-Palestine since I first learned about the conflict in the mid-90s. Pro-BSD since I first heard about BSD a couple decades ago. I’d hardly call that “just joined”.

      accusing everybody we don’t like of being a Zionist hurts more Palestinian people than it helps.

      That part is true. Dismissing something that would be a complete game changer by claiming that it would make zero difference hurts the cause as well, though. Some would argue much more.

      Take the criticism and do better

      Right back at you, doomer.

      stop being a narcissist.

      Where the fuck did THAT come from??

      Vehemently disagreeing with your incorrect take does not equal anything even remotely approaching something that could be mistaken for narcissism in good faith.

      This is about liberating the people

      Could have fooled me with your doomer nonsense.

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          I’m going by this definition:

          Doomer

          A person with a pessimistic outlook on life. [A doomer] feels a sense of helplessness and aimlessness

          Your claim would qualify as such pathological pessimism.

          Nobody except someone who’s either a Zionist defending the weapons shipments or extremely pessimistic would make such a wild claim in good faith.

          leads me to believe you are just using the word to mean Zionist

          Nope, see above.

          why you and I are at odds despite the fact that we hold the same beliefs.

          Perhaps because you keep ridiculously insisting that one of the important steps to stop what we both abhor wouldn’t matter? That would tend to put people with similar beliefs and/or goals at odds with each other.

          it may fundamentally be an issue of behavior

          True. I’m fast running out of reasons to believe a word of what you say, since you’re being so obtuse that it’s almost a given that it’s willful by now.

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              You are allowed to just lie about others and pretend its saving lives

              I have done no such thing at any point.

              This is the narcissism I was talking about.

              Still doesn’t make the least bit of sense. Just leave me alone, please.

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                  6 months ago

                  @[email protected] can’t go down two posts about Palestine without calling someone a Zionist. It’s impossible to have any discourse with these people because they aren’t interested in facts as much as they are interested in grandstanding.

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                    @[email protected] can’t go down two posts about Palestine without calling someone a Zionist

                    That’s completely false. I might sometimes call out someone who’s acting like a Zionist but isn’t one, since I’m not a mind reader, but yours is a completely unfair accusation designed to discredit me and make yourself look better in comparison.

                    it’s impossible to have any discourse with these people

                    Stereotype much?

                    they aren’t interested in facts as much as they are interested in grandstanding.

                    Doesn’t it hurt your brain to project that much?

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                I’m starting to think about you’re a troll at this point. The amount of pivoting in your posts is unreal. Just like the way you ignored my two other links in the post I referred you to.