• HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Explain why taking the principled stance is worth risking Trump enacting Project 2025.

      I would agree with you if the Republican candidate was more moderate, but we’re talking about someone who wants to make the shitty two party system a hellish one party system

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        I can never understand that argument (not even going into the fact that it is the IDF that is committing genocide in Gaza, not Biden or any other western leader). Do these people believe Trump would stop supporting Israel? Stop sending weapons and funding that genocidal war? That’s laughable and I can only assume it is a bad faith argument employed to convince potential democratic voters to abstain, thus strengthening Trump. Because nobody can be that aggressively naïve, right?

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      Bunch of you clowns on lemmy these days. Anti-vote, anti-Biden, anti-democrat. A concerted effort slinging made up crap like “genocide Joe” and other extreme hyperobole equating voting dem, or voting at all, as some sort of support for Israel’s actions.

      None of you ever mention trump basically stating he’s going to give Israel free rein to wipe out hamas/palestine, hand Ukraine to the Russians, undermine NATO and fellate dictators everywhere, much less spare no effort to make himself a permanent dictator here in the US.

      But hey, don’t vote Biden, amirite?

      Where are you all brigading from anyway? Hexbear?

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        7 months ago

        Watch : it’ll be the same Russian bots that pushed the pizza gate when Hilary was running against trump spewing this shit

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          Because it works 😕

          I believe that the effective growth of this kind of stuff, coupled with the decay of “objective” journalism whatever its significant faults might have been, is behind the surge in authoritarianism worldwide in places that used to be democracies. Reduced to the core, the price of a machine that turns money into public opinion has been going down, down, down, to the point where all you need is like 30-40 people working 40 hours a week at it, in order to create a significant change in electoral results anywhere in the world you’d like to create one.

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        TIL I’m a Russian bot. I see this stupid assumption being made all over Lemmy anytime someone advocates for not voting for Biden. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian bot or a shill. Some of us have different opinions and you look like an idiot when you make this accusation.

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          All I’m hearing is a Russian bot doesn’t like that we are catching onto this bullshit and calling them out. A lot evidently. Good to know I’m not alone. Fuck off russian bot.

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      7 months ago

      Right because white power trump is so innocent from doing exactly that on home soil.

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      The only tangible difference between a Biden presidency and a trump presidency is that LGBT folks and minorities will have a much, much worse time under Trump, but fuck them gays, right? Better to let them die in jail than vote for the guy that won’t throw them in jail