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    For reference as to why they need to try to be so heavy handed with their prompts about BS, here was Grok, Elon’s ‘uncensored’ AI on Twitter at launch which upset his Twitter blue subscribers:

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        Autocorrect that’s literally incapable of understanding is better at understanding shit than fascists. Their intelligence is literally less than zero.

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          It’s a result of believing misnfo. When prompts get better and we can start to properly indoctrinate these LLMs into ignoring certain types of information, they will be much more effective at hatred.

          What they’re learning now with the uncensored chatbots is that they need to do that next time. It’s a technology that will progress.

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            “We need to innovate to make the machines as dumb as us” in the most depressing way. holy shit is Zach Weinersmith gonna jump out from behind a tree? It feels like he should.

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              This AI tools that attempt to be made “Unbiased” in the end are just fancy circlejerk machines. The likes of OpenAI 3.5 and 4 base services will likely still be the default for all people that actually use AI for anything non political.

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        It’s almost as if the highest quality text to train AI on isn’t conservative bullshit.

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          i just tried some more to see how it responds

          (ignore the arya coding lessons thing, that’s one of the default prompts it suggests to try on their homepage)

          it said we should switch to renewable energy and acknowledged climate change, replied neutrally about communism and vaccines, said alex jones is a conspiracy theorist, it said holocaust was a genocide and said it has no opinion on black people, however it said it does not support trans rights

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      I don’t know what he was expecting considering it was trained on twitter, that was (in)famous for being full of (neo)liberals before he took over.

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        I don’t know what you think neoliberal means, but it’s not progressive. It’s about subsuming all of society to the logic of the market, aka full privatisation. Every US president since Reagan has been neoliberal.

        They will support fascist governments because they oppose socialists, and in fact the term “privatisation” was coined to describe the economic practices of the Nazis. The first neoliberal experiment was in Pinochet’s Chile, where the US supported his coup and bloody reign of fascist terror. Also look at the US’s support for Israel in the present day. This aspect of neoliberalism is in effect the process of outsourcing fascist violence overseas so as to exploit other countries whilst preventing the negative blowback from such violence at home.

        Progressive ideas don’t come from neoliberals, or even from liberals. Any layperson who calls themself a liberal at this point is unwittingly supporting neoliberalism.

        The ideas of equality, solidarity, intersectionality, anticolonialism and all that good stuff come from socialists and anarchists, and neoliberals simply coopt them as political cover. This is part of how they mitigate the political fallout of supporting fascists. It’s like Biden telling Netanyahu, “Hey now, Jack, cut that out! Also here’s billions of dollars for military spending.”

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          Amen. I’ve seen so many anglocentric lemmy users conflate “classical liberalism” and “neoliberalism” as liberal while such are actually functionally the opposite to the idea. Ideologies under the capitalist umbrella limit freedoms and liberties to apply only for the upper echelon

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            It’s America-specific, not anglocentric. Elsewhere doesn’t do the whole “liberal means left wing” thing.

            Liberal here at least generally refers to market and social liberalisation - i.e. simultaneously pro-free market and socially liberal.

            The Liberal Democrats (amusingly a name that would trigger US Republicans to an extreme degree) in the UK, for example, sided with the Conservative (right wing) party, and when Labour (left/left of centre) was under its previous leader, they said they’d do the same again, because economically they’re far more aligned with the Conservatives. But they also pushed for things like LGBT rights, because they’re actual liberals.

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              Yeah I thought that was the gist of my comment but maybe I didn’t clarify enough. The right-wing appropriation of a “liberal” market is the oxymoron as it creates a hierarchy where less money = less liberty

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          Internet political terminology confuses me greatly. There are so many conflicting arguments over the meaning that I have lost all understand of what I am supposed to be. In the politics of the country I live in we refer political thinking into just left or right and nothing else, so adapting is made much more complex.

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        It’s only in part trained on Twitter and it wouldn’t really matter either way what Twitter’s alignment was.

        What matters is how it’s being measured.

        Do you want a LLM that aces standardized tests and critical thinking questions? Then it’s going to bias towards positions held by academics and critical thinkers as you optimize in that direction.

        If you want an AI aligned to say that gender is binary and that Jews control the media, expect it to also say the earth is flat and lizard people are real.

        Often reality has a ‘liberal’ bias.