Texas leads the charge

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    3 months ago

    …?

    What are “illegals”? I’m fairly certain ‘illegal’ is an adjective but you and the headline appear appear to be incorrectly using it as a countable noun.

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        3 months ago

        disparaging + offensive

        Ooooo, OP is being a bigot? That’s unfortunate. Here I was giving benefit of the doubt.

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            3 months ago

            you missed the word sometimes.

            Can you explain how referring to a human being as “an illegal” can ever not be derogatory? 🤔

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              3 months ago

              Easy it is a label to describe immigration status, like citizen, permanent resident, temporary nonimigrant workers (migrant),…

              Immigrating into a country illegally means that person is guess what an illegal immigrant or illegal for short. Your negative views of the word illegal don’t change their status.

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                3 months ago

                Easy it is a label to describe immigration status

                It isn’t being used that way (to describe a status). It is being used to describe a person as “illegal”.

                A person being documented or not by a group which claims political authority over a geographic area does not make that person illegal.

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                  3 months ago

                  It’s no different than calling a person a citizen. Your inability to understand the definition of illegal does not change its definition.

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                    3 months ago

                    It’s no different than calling a person a citizen.

                    A citizen is a thing a person can be. It’s also a noun.
                    “Illegal” is not a thing a person can be.

                    Actions can be against laws but humans cannot.

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                  3 months ago

                  Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants. The negative connotation is yours.

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                    3 months ago

                    Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants.

                    They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.

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          3 months ago

          Its a little rude but these are illegal immigrants we’re talking about. They dont deserve a lot of respect.

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            3 months ago

            Its a little rude but these are illegal immigrants we’re talking about. They dont deserve a lot of respect.

            You don’t think all humans are worthy of dignity and respect?

            Some would consider that terrible of you.

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              3 months ago

              Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?

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                3 months ago

                Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?

                What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous “the left” did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?

                Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?

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                  Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?

                  Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.

                  Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.

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                    Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.

                    Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.

                    Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.

                    Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
                    I don’t believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.