• butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    “Policy that has worked the world over” conveniently ignoring that the countries you’re obliquely referring to are not the ones without guns, but the ones with meaningful social mobility and instead you’re pretending that the stronger correlation is guns. Across time and space, low social mobility among young men, specifically, correlates with rates of violence. But instead of trying to actually address the difficult issue here you’re just going to click those pretty little red shoes together three times and wish for a single policy that solves this extremely complex problem. Just unbelievably childish and naïve. Nothing but virtue signaling, hollier than thou bullshit.

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      8 months ago

      “Policy that has worked the world over” conveniently ignoring that the countries you’re obliquely referring to are not the ones without guns

      Very few countries have no guns and presenting gun control this way makes it clear that your information about gun control comes from pro-gun groups.

      but the ones with meaningful social mobility and instead you’re pretending that the stronger correlation is guns

      This changes nothing. You’re just admitting that the current gun laws in America are inadequate for current state of society.

      you’re just going to click those pretty little red shoes together three times and wish for a single policy

      This only holds up if I do only support a single policy. Feel free to name any progressive policy aimed at addressing wealth inequality or access to healthcare and I’ll openly state I support it.

      But the pro-gun community is a cult that insists the current gun laws are a sacred text that must never be changed (except to make worse). At best you’re saying “we should address every factor except one”.

      Just unbelievably childish and naïve

      Your solution is “we should just not have criminals any more” so you’re not in any position to call someone childish and naive. The closest it ever comes to reality is “we should reduce crime to a point where gun violence can be swept under the rug”.

      Nothing but virtue signaling, hollier than thou bullshit.

      That would still make me a better person than a colossally self-absorbed gun owner insisting we sacrifice our lives and build them a utopia beyond what the world has ever seen, all so they’re not inconvenienced buying a gun for their hobby.