• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    So you’re saying for nearly 200,000 years people sat around feeling zero sense of responsibility for their group and never acted?

    How much of the bystander effect is in part because we are disenfranchised from managing ourselves and our communities? “Oh that’s not my job, I’ll sit here being useless because the cops/&tc will come along and manage it for me”.

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      8 months ago

      For 200,000 years, the world was an extremely violent place, where slavery, genocide, etc were the norm. The idea is usually to try to move away from that.

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        8 months ago

        Of course, there are not more people in slavery today than at any other time in the past, nor does genocide go on especially not in industrial scales.

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          8 months ago

          Scale those thoughts to the human populations at the time. To give an extreme example, if Genghis Khan caused the same scale of death today, that would be 800,000,000 dead.

          The world today is far better than it was, but nobody said it is was anywhere near perfect.

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      8 months ago

      So you’re saying for nearly 200,000 years people sat around feeling zero sense of responsibility for their group and never acted?

      Uhhh… yes, for any community large enough that they didn’t know everyone in it.