• melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    the French get more of what they want than Americans

    how the fuck can you say you participate and have a voice if you just vote then do nothing for 2/4 years? never apply any pressure? never make them afraid of you?

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      2 months ago

      Idk, where you are from, but there are a lot more elections. Most levels of government somehow get elected. Then there is Citizens participation, like local hearings, letters etc.

      “Just vote” doesn’t mean go elect the president and let all other levels and branches of government be decided by others.

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        2 months ago

        uh huh.

        in noticing youre still saying “politics” begins and ends at elections. and I’m saying you are why Donald trump (as a political entity) exists.

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      They live under an even stricter presidential Republic than the US with no regional rights or autonomy, and with a policing system founded by an actual fucking Nazi collaborator with all the brutality that entails, where using gender neutral language even in your own personal writings gets you accused of being a woke college elitist, where a Holocaust Denier’s daughter has nearly become the highest official of the land twice on a coalition with members who call for a French reconquista, and where the existence of Algeria as an independent state is still considered a sore spot with a large voting demographic of the French boomers.

      But they got healthcare and stuff so totally a socialist utopia compared to America and clearly everything their people do works perfectly every damn time

      Question, if the French style of rioting works so much better than voting? Why do they have to keep doing it over the same damn shit far more often than they vote?

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        2 months ago

        so, speaking as someone living under a literal segregationist, whose predecessor and current opponent for next election is a literal Nazi whose father was a Nazi?

        where the cops here murder you in your home for fun then annoint your fucking corpse with cocaine and a ceremonial gun to make it all okay, then if anyone sues it comes out if teacher pay?

        oh wow healthcare. I have stories about that here. mostly body horror.

        gender neutral language gets you called a ‘woke elitist’ here too.

        we certainly aren’t doing better than them. and look, they have fucking healthcare and get to mostly live inside and their food isn’t all either plastic or poison! yeah their government are racist assholes, but that does seem at least somewhat representative, according to you, so maybe thats just the ugly side of the system working?

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        Question, if the French style of rioting works so much better than voting? Why do they have to keep doing it over the same damn shit far more often than they vote?

        So I leave work the other day and it’s pretty dark out and some guy walks up to me and asks me for my wallet. He says he has a knife, but fuck that, right? So we fight and I stab him and run and take the subway home. Question, why is this other dude outside my subway station also asking me for my wallet? Did stabbing the first guy not work? Why do I need to stab multiple thieving motherfuckers per subway ride?

        Idk man, I mean we could preemptively stab everyone hanging out near subway stations, just like we could stab anyone running for office. But then we’re “anarchists” and “murderers” and “lack moral fiber” and “what if a really nice guy wants to take the subway and enter politics?”

        It would be pretty cool though. Just to watch these thieving cunts get aggroed first, for a change. We’re always just waiting for them to make the first wrong move, would be pretty nice to deny them the chance for once.