claim 1: “voting doesn’t change anything”

Never forget the recent case of Kris Mayes, who refuses to uphold the Arizona supreme court’s sweeping ban of abortion.

Kris Mayes only won her 2022 election by 280 votes. Voting changes things.

claim 2: “but genocide joe”

Yep. Hold that fucker’s feet to the fire. He has blood on his hands

But trump has promised to be indisputably worse.

I won’t tell you how to vote. I just encourage you to vote. You’re not radical for ditching the only miniscule right the state has granted you to do some small aid for your neighbors.

  • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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    6 months ago

    If you think I am treating voting as a bulwark against evil you misunderstand my position from the first place. Never my intention. Simply here to say that calling for a non-vote is misplacing risk onto the most vulnerable people groups when better avenues are available.

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      6 months ago

      oh, uh, if i didn’t make it clear, I’m just talking at the federal level here. Local elections are far and away more important for keeping regional laws and policies somewhat in check.

      • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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        6 months ago

        Makes no difference. Calling for a non-vote without a viable alternative or backing at any level, local, state or federal, is placing undue risk on the backs of the most vulnerable.

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          6 months ago

          Let me put it this way: Biden is not going to win the electoral collage. That’s forgone at this point. He did not win by a particularly large margin last election, and that was with the added pressures of both Covid and everyone being sick and tired of hearing about Trump on the news.

          Now, people are either angry about the price of groceries, the genocide in Palestine, or both. The democrats do not have the will to flip enough swing states to secure the presidency. Unpopular candidate, unhappy electorate. 2016 all over again. They will loose.

          …so, why not use that inevitable failure to make demands of the party? The DNC has done more to put vulnerable people in danger than anyone – they’ve floundered the two years when they had both the legislature and the presidency. Are you going to let this party hide behind our vulnerable populations, like human shields? Or are you going to hold them accountable in the only way that they will listen?