• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    I agree that those labels are flippantly defined but Hamas (while having a political wing) definitely has a terrorist wing. Palestinians deserve defending but Hamas isn’t worth your breath.

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      8 months ago

      I’m not trying to imply a moral judgement here over whether or not Hamas is good or not. All I’m claiming is that as an indigenous group resisting foreign occupation, Hamas’ activities, including armed resistance, are protected under international law. And that the west considers them terrorists despite this shows that not violating international law itself isn’t grounds to be considered a terrorist or not. The point is the distinction is purely whether the west likes them or not.

      • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 months ago

        Bro, Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip in 2007 by force of arms aimed at fellow Palestinians. It’s not just the west either, Hamas was born out of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1980s, which has been designated as a terrorist organization by multiple countries including Eygpt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. Putting aside everything that’s happened since October of last year, Hamas is made up of some really shitty, evil people. Their founding principles aren’t just freedom from Israel, the destruction of Israel, or even the killing of all Israelis. One of their missions, since the organization was founded in the 1980s, is to kill all Jews worldwide. Surely we can agree on that not being an organization worth our support.

        I can support Palestines without supporting Hamas just like I can support Jews without supporting the Israeli state.