• 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Not too sure what they’d replace this with.

    I’d assume teachers are extremely familiar with the book after teaching it for years - shifting away from it will take time for them to adjust to… not to mention any lesson plans that they’ll need to rethink

  • MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Link won’t work for me. I’m curious about this, why? From what little I remember it is a really great book. The rabbits George.

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      Contains racial slurs which are a realistic portrayal of how people would talk at the time it is set, but which are difficult for the students to hear repeated in a classroom setting, regardless of context

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        1 year ago

        Theres only so much you can coddle students though, before its just a bit silly

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          I’d agree with that. It’s probably a positive thing for children to be exposed to that sort of language in a controlled environment where the teacher can explain historical context. It’s not like they’ll be avoid racial slurs forever

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    is there a better place, to learn and discuss racial slurs and the significance of the word, than in a class room ?

    or should they learn it from rap music ? where it’s thrown around liberally like punctation, with no information about why it is the word that it is ?

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      1 year ago

      What they are saying in the article that racism can and should be thought (and is!) but it’s entirely unnecessary and off putting for it to be part of English lit.

      Part of English lit is encouraging a positive attitude to reading and literature. Yes it delves into the details but it should be encouraging young people about the joy of reading. That’s definitely not going to happen if you are choosing books that alienate your readers when there are plenty of alternatives that would be more suitable

      This isn’t about “banning” of mice and men. It’s just about it not being the focus of the class where this hateful racist language and attitudes would be read out.

      It’s a very understandable viewpoint

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        1 year ago

        if we’re only reading about rainbows and unicorns, it certainly thins the library.

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          That’s not the point and you know it. A child who already is likely to have experienced racism towards themselves not being comfortable with hearing casual racism being read out in class isn’t the same as wanting books restricted to “rainbows and unicorns”

          I’m not saying that I agree with that of mice and men should be removed from the curriculum (honestly I don’t know what the right thing to do is) but I understand and empathise with the girls position.

          • /JJ@feddit.uk
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            it is the unavoidable point if you insist English Lit should avoid difficult topics in order to instil the joy of reading, because literature is filled with harrowing stories of people behaving inhumanely towards one another.

            at the same time, arguing that difficult topics should not be avoided but taught carefully, does not mean i do not empathise with those affected.

    • Sens@feddit.uk
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      The main complaint is that for people of colour, to be sat in a classroom with their peers whilst the derogatory words are read out loud is highly uncomfortable for them. I totally can understand that and why this is now coming up as more and more of the UK are becoming multicultural.

      It should be taught in a classroom yes, but probably not in English literature class and something more like a Modern History of British Culture class, where it can be explained why Of Mice and Men was originally selected for a GCSE book, why it’s no longer acceptable, why the derogatory words are disgraceful and then why it was removed from the syllabus. This gives an all round education on the subject. Not perfect but it’s a start.

      When I was in high school I was told half-caste was an acceptable term in the mid 2000s, and I still accidentally used it till a couple years ago because I was never told otherwise. It was only because of a friend who is more social than I am told me it’s no longer acceptable to use to refer to people with mixed racial parents.