anybody still waiting around for government and democracy to fix this shit is extremely naive. government is just a form of organization. we have all the tools to organize without the help of government.
I don’t think people are smart or sane enough for self governance. Just look how many trump supporters there are. To let them wild and expect to have some sane self organisational system that isn’t outright slavery of minorities…
Democracy is a screening test for anarchism, first step. If you fail it, there is no sense pursuing the latter. Only country apparently smart enough to arrive at the next step - direct democracy, is Switzerland.
What we all really mean is that the current borders in the age of internet grow weaker and weaker. People want to have their own countries with likeminded folks. It’s only a matter of time before internet tribalism materialises in reality as the web permeates our culture deeper and deeper.
USA will probably split sooner or later unless someone can unite people again.
Because a group to punish cops is just cops punishing criminals with extra steps.
Systemic oppression is a problem but the police are a symptom rather than the source.
Police is a tool by those in power, one of the main objectives is to protect private properties because ownership of resources is what competition has always been about.
I support pretty much any left pushing operation but my personal angle(dream) would be to further radicalize the youth into being more class conscious and to occupy the space we need to not just survive but thrive as decentralized network of solarpunk communities.
They’re supposed to catch them. Then a whole other branch of the justice system judges what sort of punishment is warranted and yet another branch of the justice system see to the actual punishing. If things went by the book.
Unfortunately the system doesn’t exactly work as it’s supposed to.
Even if you could get away with it, it’s only a matter of time before some vigilante decides that they too like the cops are the law and starts abusing people.
They did the same in the US and Mexico many times already! Start a group of people that protect the others. Obviously, they’ll need guns to do so. They’ll need to recruit new members willing to apply force and so in no time you have the next gang that cuts people into pieces and hangs them from bridges for failed drug sales while they kidnap their next victim for quick money.
Vigilantism never ends well, we are not batman, we are human.
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I’d bet they’d understand “lose your job and go to prison”, but somehow it’s a language we’re incapable of speaking.
anybody still waiting around for government and democracy to fix this shit is extremely naive. government is just a form of organization. we have all the tools to organize without the help of government.
I don’t think people are smart or sane enough for self governance. Just look how many trump supporters there are. To let them wild and expect to have some sane self organisational system that isn’t outright slavery of minorities…
Democracy is a screening test for anarchism, first step. If you fail it, there is no sense pursuing the latter. Only country apparently smart enough to arrive at the next step - direct democracy, is Switzerland.
What we all really mean is that the current borders in the age of internet grow weaker and weaker. People want to have their own countries with likeminded folks. It’s only a matter of time before internet tribalism materialises in reality as the web permeates our culture deeper and deeper.
USA will probably split sooner or later unless someone can unite people again.
If the problem is MAGA, just get rid of those people. I don’t think we should let a bunch of idiots ruin the utopia that is within reach.
Thats true but i do hope we approach our organization a tad bigger and a bit more sensitive then a cop punishing vigilante ring.
why?
Because a group to punish cops is just cops punishing criminals with extra steps.
Systemic oppression is a problem but the police are a symptom rather than the source.
Police is a tool by those in power, one of the main objectives is to protect private properties because ownership of resources is what competition has always been about.
I support pretty much any left pushing operation but my personal angle(dream) would be to further radicalize the youth into being more class conscious and to occupy the space we need to not just survive but thrive as decentralized network of solarpunk communities.
Cops aren’t supposed to punish criminals.
They’re supposed to catch them. Then a whole other branch of the justice system judges what sort of punishment is warranted and yet another branch of the justice system see to the actual punishing. If things went by the book.
Unfortunately the system doesn’t exactly work as it’s supposed to.
Fuck (the current and corrupt) cops.
This post has been flagged by the FBi for trying to hold police accountable.
Peaceful protesting only works for so long.
Commander Data discusses terrorism with captain Picard.
Note the prediction for the “Irish Unification of 2024”
ACAB but I don’t agree with vigilantism.
Even if you could get away with it, it’s only a matter of time before some vigilante decides that they too like the cops are the law and starts abusing people.
I imagine a bunch of people dress as green arrow running around yelling “YOU’VE FAILED THIS CITY” and I’m not entirely opposed to it.
Every time there’s a civilian review board it gets undermined by the police and politicians (who rely on the police unions to stay in power).
You’re probably not wrong
Oohh, great idea!
They did the same in the US and Mexico many times already! Start a group of people that protect the others. Obviously, they’ll need guns to do so. They’ll need to recruit new members willing to apply force and so in no time you have the next gang that cuts people into pieces and hangs them from bridges for failed drug sales while they kidnap their next victim for quick money.
Vigilantism never ends well, we are not batman, we are human.
Batman is a human! His superpower is billions and billions of dollars. But it doesn’t seem like that’s very realistic either.
I believe the “police police” is called Internal Affairs.
how well are they doing at their job?