• dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Cis women and trans women have been found to have comparable performance in sports. Generally, cis women have an advantage over trans women.

    I’m sure that you’ll be objective and apply the same reasoning against cis women now that you know they have a physical advantage over other women.

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        6 months ago

        What the hell are you on about?

        You know what, go ahead and list these record settings. I want to see them.

        Omit “school record” or any regional / divisional / age related records. Those get set and broke constantly. Show me ACTUAL records. World records. Professional league records.

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          Insofar as I know, there’s been two trans folk to make it to the Olympics. One is Quinn, AFAB soccer midfielder who is nb. Their team won gold in the 2020 Olympics.

          The other is Laurel Hubbard of New Zealand, who was competing in weightlifting, which I think we can agree is either the most ideal or close to the most ideal situation for conservatives and TERF’s to push their nonsense takes wrt trans folks in sports. Laurel failed her three lift attempts and placed last in her group.

          I think anyone would be hard pressed to say in either of those two cases the trans person was malicious or “cheating” somehow.

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            Thanks. It was a genuine question. I’ve never heard of a single trans person who has set such a record.

            Every time I hear stuff on the news it’s “Trans girl shatters high school record”. Given that there are basically thousands of possible records per grade per school, I would absolutely expect a few records to be set by trans girls. The thousands of records set per year by cis girls goes unrecognized and unreported.

            Whenever cis girls succeed, they’re ignored. Whenever transgender people succeed, they’re punished. Whenever they fail, they’re still punished.

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              Wikipedia ID’s them as trans, so they’re on the very short list of trans olympic athletes.

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                That may be but since they haven’t done any chemical transition it’s entirely irrelevant. What all these shitlords get up up in arms about is MTF.

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                  I was listing “trans athlete in the Olympics” though, not “trans athlete in the Olympics who has done chemical transition”.

                  I thought my wording was fairly clear. Sorry if you got confused somehow.

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        That must be why we’ve repeatedly seen instances where trans women set records within the women’s category of their respective sport! Because it’s all equal and impossible for a trans woman to have an advantage.

        Name three.