Every competitor is better, and most of them are cheaper.

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      My steam deck runs Windows 11 at full speed to take advantage of the xbox game pass. My two surfaces both arm and intel run win 11 at full speed, I dont understand your comment. The one major complaint is that SteamOS sleep is a killer feature, not a day goes by that I do not covet it. Windows sleep does not exist and is left out in reviews but honestly to a regular person is the biggest difference, and is why I can not recommend anything other than steamdeck.

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        it seems that you didn’t understand my comment. What I wanted to highlight is, both AMD CPU’s and Linux use up less battery than Intel CPU’s and Windows 11 while gaming. Why are you telling me something about “my steam deck runs windows 11 at “”“full speed””“(?)”? If you check GamersNexus’ MSI Claw review, you’ll realize that its battery life is pretty bad compared to other handhelds, arguably one of the most important stats of a handheld.

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          You are correct I misunderstood, I read your comment as handhelds with intel can’t windows. It is why I shifted to my surfaces, as they have xbox gaming and run other than AMD. IME windows can game on literally any platform, I linux professionally but MacOS privately, apple apps that run on x86 can not run on their m platforms because they dont support ARM #Facepalm, so the run anywhere promise of windows (which I know is fake) seems hard to beat, and I do not feel windows has overhead that these handhelds can’t overcome.

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            Alright no worries, my first comment was mostly just a quick jab at intels powerhungriness on desktop compared to AMD and windows 11’s telemetry eating up processing power (which I also know can be turned off). Admittedly, I don’t know too much about power efficiency of intel’s mobile chips to comment on them in a serious way.

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        Welcome to Lemmy. If Windows is ever mentioned, the knee jerk reaction is "Windows bad. Linux good.”

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          Don’t get me started on how many fear mongering articles keep making it to the top with comments about “Microsoft adding anti-features with no way to disable them” or “Microsoft will just reset it with the next update anyway, why bother” because people can’t be bothered to take 5 minutes to skim through the settings app. Learned helplessness.

          I get the frustration that it’s necessary in the first place. I get the frustration when it’s something that needs to be fixed through the registry or group policy because that’s not straight forward.

          But the sheer amount of false information being parroted by people who never took the time to look into configuring their own device is absolutely absurd.

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            I did configure quite some Windows systems for friends and still have a Laptop with Win10 LTSC. It was a pain in the ass and I will parrot Windows bad until Windows ded

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    The worst part for me, is it sounds like it has good well thought out software, but the hardware choice crippled them. It sounds like better specs but the steamdeck (proud owner) was made on the cheap and is outclassing them at half price.

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      The steamdeck is a masterclass in prioritisation and optimisation, but even considering that I think valve is likely still selling most variants at a loss. The claw does seem fucking shit tho. I’d say they should have used Linux but I wouldn’t trust msi to make that work in any kind of sensible way tbh.

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      What baffles me is I’ve yet to see another handheld with touchpads that can even begin to rival the Steam Deck’s.

      AYANEO has them on the Retro Mini PC but they’re smaller and way too far down to be comfortable to use regularly.

      The touchpads are one of the Steam Deck’s greatest features. They actually make it enjoyable to play games designed for use with a mouse. Why are none of the other manufacturers getting that?

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        Those other manufacturers didn’t launch a new controller design. Valve did. It was fine and they learned how to make it great. Valve learned by experimenting with shape, button locations, track pads themselves were entirely new; it must have been a wild time in those hardware labs.

        The funny thing is that reviews at the time mentions the track pad as being inspired but under baked on the Steam controller. Valve iterated and came up with something great. AYANEO just had their first attempt. Let’s see how much they learn.