• ch00f@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Different design philosophies. Fewer moving parts, fewer things to break.

    One thing I’ve heard is that Tesla has plans to detect oncoming hazards and not allow the door to open if, say, a car or bicycle is approaching nearby. More difficult if there’s always a physical link between the handle and door latch.

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      6 months ago

      Fewer moving parts, fewer things to break.

      You are talking about a regular door handle, which tends to last for many, many decades without failing, right?

      Electronics are far, far more likely to fail than physical links.

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        6 months ago

        Until like 2022, Tesla door handles cost 600 dollars and had 9 contact sensors, 4 motors, and a controller board, all exposed to moisture. They had a very high failure rate.

        Today, they have 2 magnetic sensors, 2 motors, and a control board, with less exposure to moisture. They still have a high failure rate, they still cost 600 dollars.

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          6 months ago

          I think you’re talking about the Model S. The Model 3/Y don’t have motorized handles.

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        6 months ago

        My 1998 Toyota Corolla where the inside and outside driver-side door handles broke begs to differ.

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      6 months ago

      Having one handle to open the door is a better implementation of that philosophy than two entirely separate door opening systems.

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        6 months ago

        How does it work exactly? If you pull normally, it opens electrically, if you pull harder and further then it opens mechanically?

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          6 months ago

          There could be a sensor that detects the handle being pulled before the handle starts to engage the mechanical release. As soon as the handle has moved the minimum distance (or had the minimum force applied), the windows could move down and the actuator moves the door mechanism before the handle even engages with it.

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      6 months ago

      That sounds less like a different design philosophy and more like a death trap.

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      6 months ago

      Solenoids have been a thing for actuating door latches since the 50s. As it turns out in the last 70 years most manufacturers realized they were less reliable than the basic mechanical latches used on almost every car.