• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil?

    If these people are looking for a non-evil choice, I don’t think I could offer them a single figure in all of history that could fit their criteria.

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      5 months ago

      Maybe each percentage more evil we lose a percentage of possible voters

      pragmatically I would think we’d want to make our candidate even a fraction of a percent less evil. I’m not a mathematician though.

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        5 months ago

        So you think people WILL vote for a lesser evil, and the AMOUNT of evil that it is DOES actually matter.

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          Certainly, but supporting a genocide is a pretty high level of evil, I imagine a lot of people are looking at that and thinking ‘hmm not worth it’.

          That’s why it’s probably important to make that evil percentage trend down a bit, i reckon

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            5 months ago

            So what is the difference between your position and my position with regards to this question:

            How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil?

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              I’m pushing to make the lesser evil less evil. You’re pushing for people to hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil without even demanding they try being a little less evil.

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                  5 months ago

                  Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.

                  Seems pretty important if you know, you care about defeating Trump.

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                    Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.

                    It would be great if Biden changed his view. I hope that the changing views of the American electorate on Israel and the protests relevant to that change pressure him into doing so.

                    But when you say “Well, it’s actually completely okay if you decide that allowing fascism is the better choice if Biden doesn’t change his mind😊”, what you’re saying is “I don’t give a fuck how many Palestinians OR American minorities die, and I don’t care if I ever get a say in governance again.”

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                    5 months ago

                    Then your choices are reduced to “Allow politicians to know that your ‘demands’ mean nothing because they have no consequences” or “Let the fascist win”.

                    By the way, really loving the “LOL let’s just wing it” attitude towards the potential murder of millions more people. Makes me feel real warm and fuzzy inside to know that the pro-minority attitude of the online left isn’t even deep enough to be performative.