Personally, I believe that A CAB. Yes, all cops are bastards, no exceptions. Yet I have met people who think that cops in socialist countries aren’t bastards.

My reasoning is that it is a position of power over your fellow citizens/countrymen/people and only bastards would be attracted to such positions. While a person may go in with “good intentions”, invariably they will be at some point in their career be expected to do something “not good”: cover up for a colleague, arrest someone for law they don’t agree with, beat somebody up, and so on. If they do it and remain a cop, well they are a bastard, no matter how many old ladies they help cross the street or whatever.

Let’s also not pretend that a full communist utopia where every single law/regulation/rule is fair is possible in our lifetimes (or at all likely), there’ll always be people who will want to abuse their power and take control, cops are an easily bought section of society that makes it possible for them. Historically, cops have always sided with the aristocracy/bourgeoisie/land-owners/those with money.

Your thoughts?

  • space_comrade [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    5 months ago

    My reasoning is that it is a position of power over your fellow citizens/countrymen/people and only bastards would be attracted to such positions.

    Wouldn’t this then be true for any political position with executive power too? It seems like a flimsy criteria to me.

    • multitotal@lemmygrad.mlOP
      52·
      5 months ago

      Wouldn’t this then be true for any political position with executive power too?

      Yes, that’s why people should be nominated by others, like it was in many socialist countries.

      • space_comrade [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        5 months ago

        Are you implying that no socialist leaders ever wanted to be in power and all of them were just so nominated and begrudgingly accepted the position? I’m not really sure that’s how it went down in the general case, sure sometimes it probably happened but I don’t think we yet have a mechanism to keep people that want power away from power.

        • multitotal@lemmygrad.mlOP
          51·
          5 months ago

          Are you implying that no socialist leaders ever wanted to be in power and all of them were just so nominated and begrudgingly accepted the position?

          We’re not talking about just the “leaders”? Didn’t you say representatives? There’s many more elected positions in a socialist state than just “the leaders”. Also, “power” of leaders in socialist countries isn’t absolute. Those are anti-communist talking points. Do you think Stalin had absolute power? He was nominated/elected general-secretary, he didn’t say “I want to be general-secretary” and it was so. He also had to have his decisions approved, but that’s a different conversation.