Joe Simps for the D biden-horror : CPUSA co-chair Sims: Fighting fascist threat a top priority Peoples world Article

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CHICAGO – “The battle lines are clear. We’re fighting a fascist danger at home and a genocidal war abroad. And to defeat the danger at home, we’ve got to defeat the war abroad.” CPUSA co-chair Joe Sims gave this warning on June 7, as he keynoted the 32nd National Convention of the Communist Party USA.

Sims also spoke of the “raw racism at the very heart of MAGA,” and added, “Immigrants are a special target.

“First, they tried the wall,” Sims said of Trump’s scheme to keep migrants from entering the U.S. across the Mexican border. “Then the Muslim ban, now they’re planning concentration camps. That’s right, we said it. And if they come for immigrants in the morning, they’re damn sure coming for us at noon.

But we’re not at fascism yet, of course, Sims said. And that moment of respite – for however long it lasts – means that for now, “There is room for struggle. Let us use that space to fight for a ceasefire in Gaza and for an end to the war in Ukraine. Let us use it to stop the expansion of NATO, end the blockade of Cuba, and bring the Cold War against China to a close.

He then turned to the historic question the Communist movement has always asked, “What, then, is to be done?”

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As Sims spoke to wild peals of applause, he said, “On the one side, there’s the ruling class forces of white supremacy and MAGA pulling the country apart. On the other, there’s the working-class forces of democracy pulling the country together.”

Link to @[email protected] take on Joe Sims tailism

SSettler KKKolonial Unity amerikkkaunityisntrael : The Communist Party of Israel greets CPUSA’s 32nd Convention twitter

In which the CPI blames Hamas for the Gaza war, denounces the Operation Al-Aqsa Flood (i guess palestinians just have to get used to dying) and washes the hands of the israeli state by claiming that its netanyahoo the problem and not the State of ISSael itself

how do you manage to be on the Right of the DSA??

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    He then turned to the historic question the Communist movement has always asked, “What, then, is to be done?”

    Oh hell no. Do not go there to justify voting for a fucking genocidal neoliberal ghoulvisible-disgust

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    How the hell are communists inviting an Israeli political party to a convention? Hell I can’t even imagine the radical liberals or centre left in South Africa doing that. I don’t even think most centrists would do that.

    Surely this must hurt whatever legitimacy the party had.

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        DSA has major problems. However, in its defense, I’ll quote myself from another comment in this thread:

        In contrast to my perception of CPUSA, DSA hasn’t devolved into false demcent (i.e. “bureaucratic centralism”). While DSA has big problems (and needs more centralism), it does actually have sufficient internal democracy necessary to engage in two line struggle, because of that it has the potential (however small) to build consensus among the US left cross-tendency.

        You cite actions taken by significant elements of DSA that are bad. I agree this is concerning. However, structurally DSA has greater capacity to critique this due to its internal democracy (which still needs improvement). I’m not sure any other left formations in the US have this capacity developed to the same level.

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        My impression is that their party leadership is a little lib but DSA has actual young people pushing it to be more radical. I know people my age in YDSA but today at a rally when I saw a CPUSA guy and started making fun of him none of my friends knew what CPUSA even was. And they were literally all socialists involved in other orgs.

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    “On the one side, there’s the ruling class forces of white supremacy and MAGA pulling the country apart. On the other, there’s the working-class forces of democracy pulling the country together.”

    I have some bad news for you about which side Joe Biden is on, my guy.

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      Also the very next part too:

      “First, they tried the wall,” Sims said of Trump’s scheme to keep migrants from entering the U.S. across the Mexican border.

      And who provided funding to continue building the wall?

      “Then the Muslim ban, now they’re planning concentration camps. That’s right, we said it.

      They literally have concentration camps on the border right now. And who was it that expanded the camps after Trump?

      And if they come for immigrants in the morning, they’re damn sure coming for us at noon.

      So the solution is to vote for the Biden, who continued building the wall and who expanded the concentration camps after Trump, in order to stop Trump, who plans to continue building the wall and expanding the concentration camps?

      The math ain’t mathin’

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        Yeah, I don’t get it. There’s a very reasonable argument to be made that picking Biden over Trump won’t make that much of a difference in real terms. This honestly seems like one of the best times in recent history to directly address the legitimacy of the system, rather than pretend that it matters which demented old man gets to be president.

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          That’s definitely the clearest and most effective strategy for advancing class consciousness.

          If we drop our expectations lower though and we just consider that this person is the leader of the largest communist party in the US and, as such, his role is to engage in political analysis then the next step from that is to consider his political analysis of the situation - that Biden is significantly different to Trump, that Biden is both capable of stopping Trump and willing to do so, and that Biden is not doing what Trump did which he believes makes Trump bad/an existential threat etc.

          I can’t even put words to exactly how that leaves me - I’m not speechless or aghast or disappointed. If I was in a room with him, there would be nothing that I’d want to say to him or to hear from him because I genuinely believe that there’s more value in shitposting on some little corner of the internet than there is in engaging with someone who is either so politically disconnected that he genuinely believes these things that he has said or who is very consciously attempting to deceive the masses by using convenient fiction in order to achieve a deeper political goal in the most cynical way possible. I nothing him, y’know?

          Imo what that boils down to is either he thinks that people like me are completely stupid or he is genuinely this stupid. Either way 🤷

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            What’s really unforgivable is the total lack of any long-term strategy, which is the only thing that any third-party in American politics should be concerned about, let alone an ostensibly revolutionary party. They aren’t going to secure any actual political power through elections in the near-term, so the entire exercise should be about how to raise class consciousness and convince people that the very obviously dysfunctional system is in fact dysfunctional.

            To endorse that system in any way just muddies the waters. It’s not the job of the CPUSA or any other socialist party to help the Democrats get elected, and doing so is not going to help advance socialism in any meaningful way. I could understand if there were actual politics happening, that they were leveraging their support to get policy concessions from the Democrats, but that isn’t happening and will likely never happen, so this is nothing but an own-goal.

            Like you say, either he’s incompetent, or he has an incredible amount of contempt for people who he should want in his coalition.

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              Right?

              Let’s be really cynical or pragmatic, whatever you want to call it - say you’re the head of the CPUSA. You feel that your primary task is to maintain your membership numbers and you don’t want to cause a split or you want to appeal to the milquetoast left-ish “socialist” crowd or some shit. Fine. Game is game.

              So what do you do? You announce that you aren’t endorsing anyone. Or you tell people to vote with their conscience (because you know that everyone who still believes in bourgeois democracy is gonna vote Biden anyway).

              Then you refocus on what matters. Done and done.

              This is how I felt in the Bernie era when there were a lot of slapfights over whether or not to vote for him. I was just like - fuck it, it’s not worth splitting a movement over. If you’re gonna vote for him then you’re going to do it regardless of what other people in your organisation say. And if you’re not going to vote, what, is someone going to drag you to the polls so you can cast an invalid vote or something?

              If you don’t endorse Biden you aren’t hitching your wagon to whatever the fuck atrocities his regime is going to be complicit in for the next four years. But if you do endorse Biden, what strategic goals does this achieve which non-endorsement would not?

              This has the exact same energy as RSVPing to a wedding reception that you weren’t even invited to.

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      Liberal shit statement anyway, “country together”? A solid 1/3 if not half the country are straight up fascists or at very best anti-communists that simply can’t be dealt with except forceful re-education, you need to get away from and destroy your enemies not get “closer” with them.

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    If there’s no mechanism to rid the party of this moron then I don’t see why there are any comrades still organising through it. If the existing leadership won’t get rid of him then the whole bunch are reactionary. How many decades of dedication is it going to take for any group of real and dedicated communists to root them out? It’s a lost cause.

    People gotta sit down and ask themselves exactly how long it will realistically take to achieve and whether that’s a timeline worth doing or whether it’s better to be organising through alternatives.

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      sadly there is no democratic mechanism to get rid of him

      WHEREAS the perversion of democratic centralism that prevents full discussion of proposed resolutions and limits new resolutions to those that have been pre-approved by leadership places revisionism and opportunism fully in command of the party apparatus, LET IT BE RESOLVED that the convention rules be amended to: i) permit each speaker to hold the floor for 10 minutes, ii) adopt in full Robert’s Rules of Order to govern procedure, and iii) be explicitly permitted to offer new resolutions on the convention floor.

      WHEREAS the revisionist drift of the party for the past fifty years has caused it to fall away from the masses, tail the Democratic Party, and lose its character as a proletarian institution, LET IT BE RESOLVED that this convention hereby enacts a self-denying resolution which shall disbar any present members of the National Committee or anyone who has served on the National Committee in the past decade from appearing on any slate before this convention or being elected or appointed to the National Committee or its subcommittees for at least four years and LET IT FURTHER BE RESOLVED that any candidate for the National Committee shall be required to take an oath of commitment to the proletarian revolution before the convention prior to being placed on the slate.

      Also Joe sims and his friends are the owners of the all the assets of the CPUSA

      Lastly, however, and most critically, the millions of dollars of resources controlled by the leadership of CPUSA isn’t owned by the party. In fact, the party, as an entity, has no legal recognition in any state and is not federally registered as anything. Each state “party” is an “unincorporated club.” This means that the party is, under bourgeois law, incapable of owning any property or money. So who owns all of these things?

      Individual party leaders. John Bachtell runs Longview Publishing. Advance Realty is run by Libero Della Piana, who is also the managing director of the Drug Policy Alliance, an NGO. The party launders its money through a number of NGOs, of which the Drug Policy Alliance is only one. By maintaining them primarily in NGOs, which receive grant money, the assets are required to report directly to their federal backers and managers exactly what every penny is spent on. Even further, party leaders employ their own significant others and children in those NGOs, from which they draw a salary. John Bachtell lives from the donations of party members to People’s World, even though the party does not own, control, or manage its own newspaper.

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        Extremely well written link.

        This seems like a lot of effort when the people that aren’t revisionists could simply migrate to another ML party that isn’t clearly fucked up procedurally in so many ways. What’s the point in spending one to three decades fighting this out and waiting for these people to die when people could simply move.

        All this agitation and trying to fight things out procedurally and for what? What’s the outcome going to be? The outcome will be that these people stay in place until they’re dead and they get to appoint whoever follows them so those people are almost certainly going to be exactly like they are.

        Fighting in CPUSA appears to be a dead end to me. The mechanisms are what matter here. Really lay out to yourselves how many decades this will take vs how immediate moving to another party would be. It’s really fucking obvious what the correct path is.

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          All this agitation and trying to fight things out procedurally and for what? What’s the outcome going to be? The outcome will be that these people stay in place until they’re dead and they get to appoint whoever follows them so those people are almost certainly going to be exactly like they are.

          It seems like they’re going to just appoint their failchildren at this point since the finances are entirely controlled by a few families.

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            Yeah which is exactly why there is no point in fighting it. The problem can’t be resolved without a mechanism and one simply does not exist. It’s an organisational dead end.

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    He then turned to the historic question the Communist movement has always asked, “What, then, is to be done?”

    Jfc, Lenin would run roughshod on these clowns. gargantuan-bronze-lenin-head

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    How does the U.S. fail in every way to have some sort of strong communist party. Each large one has so many issues and some are just too small or are clones of larger orgs. We’ve reached the point where a consistently red star controlled DSA is the best bet for a communist org, and while that’s not a bad thing, DSA as a whole is still filled with libs.

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        I feel like PSL and FRSO could have some potential, but they seem to have the same political line (not a bad thing) and (in my opinion) PSL leans way too hard into electoral politics (unlike FRSO). It’s expensive to campaign and run a candidate, and I feel like there are better ways to spend that money. I also worry that they could eventually turn into trots or socdems in order to pick up voters, though I would prefer if they could grow without that happening. Maybe one day some sort of coalition could form between a Marxist DSA, PSL, and FRSO (possibly even a merger) but the odds of that happening are so slim with the leftist tendency for orgs to split themselves into oblivion.

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            Definetly, local elections can matter and do make a difference for communities. They’re also easier to win, especially in smaller communities. Locally, it’s possible for a party can gain popular support through other organizing efforts rather than just campaigning and asking people to vote for socialism.

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          Also, anecdotally, PSL members seem to spend a lot of irl time discussing their electoralist projects. I think electoralism is a valid vehicle but don’t think it’s strategic to dedicate that much attention to it.

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      In contrast to my perception of CPUSA, DSA hasn’t devolved into false demcent (i.e. “bureaucratic centralism”). While DSA has big problems (and needs more centralism), it does actually have sufficient internal democracy necessary to engage in two line struggle, because of that it has the potential (however small) to build consensus among the US left cross-tendency.