So my brother just send me a post on insta on Mason Greenwood, saying our club should just sign him now. Like, mate have you not heard the audio of the guy literally r*ping his gf? Or do you just not care?

According to my mom he also sometimes goes on a rant against woke and LGBTQ+ people. I’m 100% convinced social media algorithms got him into Tate territory. My mom is an open minded person. My dad, while being a typical working class guy, is an open minded person. They would never say dumb shit like that. And I don’t think I have to clarify how I think about the world.

My brother is a kind and good guy but I always felt he was easily influenced. I hate that losers like Tate can change him from what he is into a potential racist shithead.

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    you just gotta use the dialectic method and ask him to explain why he thinks the way he does. that and be a positive role model. so many young men these days latch onto this right-wing nonsense because they are hyper-reactionary against “weakness” and want to be “strong” whether that’s mentally, physically or financially. capitalism provides so many false idols like sports stars or rw grifters. demonstrate that compassion and open-mindedness are far more powerful than hate. that, or bully him, it’s up to you lol. many privileged dudes hold bigoted beliefs until they have to fight for them, and then they melt away pretty fast.

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    I don’t know how close you are with him, but reach out now. Nip this in the bud. I don’t want to go into details, but it’s always better to stop this before it festers into far worse thoughts and especially behaviours.

    I haven’t spoken to my own brother in over 5 years, he’s dead to me. I don’t want that to happen to anyone else.

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    That sucks. I’ve known a few people who’ve gotten caught up in that world.

    For what it’s worth, if he’s been influenced by them, he can probably be influenced back. The best method I’ve found is just inviting those folks around to my home and letting them observe a healthy relationship between me and my wife. Direct confrontation has never worked for me, just continued exposure to something healthy (especially if there are moments I can defer to my wife or otherwise act against the mysogynistic worldview).

    Guys like Tate can talk all they want, but seeing two people be genuinely loving and supportive of each other tends to disarm a lot of the bs argument points (and ultimately reveals the fear and loathing those guys are barely hiding). Can’t save everyone, but we can do our part.

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    This was an issue prior to social media, too. People at certain points of social status get promoted because “they make money good”.

    Social media has helped to keep them in the spotlight when they should be buried into obscurity.

    And people gravitate to Tate dicks because “they’re offering something”, even if that something is absolute trash.

    Hopefully your brother will see reason soon.

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    This is sad to hear but he has something that many in his situation don’t: you (someone who cares that he’s headed down the wrong path). Some people close to me are like this: kindhearted and genuinely good but they can parrot terrible reactionary nonsense. Most of the time, I find that if I don’t cause a scene (not saying you will, but sometimes I snap!), I can reach people IRL. Not falling out with people goes a long way to keeping them receptive to what you have to say. (I know I’m privileged being able not to fall out with people over things like this. I realise it’s different for many people.) They’ve got to trust you first (sounds like that might be the case already). Then it’s possible to find out what they think and why. Then you can take apart their framework slowly and step by step.

    If you know he goes on anti-LGBTQ+ rants, you can guess at what those are. That leaves you two choices – (1) don’t bring it up because it could ruin your relationship or (2) bring it up at a convenient time in a strategic way. This might provide a way in to expose the bullshit of Tate et al. Demolish the right premises and the spell will break.