https://infogalactic.com/info/Geocentrism

Well there’s this site

https://galileowaswrong.blogspot.com/p/summary.html

Galileo Was Wrong is a detailed and comprehensive treatment of the scientific evidence supporting Geocentrism, the academic belief that the Earth is immobile in the center of the universe. Garnering scientific information from physics, astrophysics, astronomy and other sciences, Galileo Was Wrong shows that the debate between Galileo and the Catholic Church was much more than a difference of opinion about the interpretation of Scripture.

Scientific evidence available to us within the last 100 years that was not available during Galileo’s confrontation shows that the Church’s position on the immobility of the Earth is not only scientifically supportable, but it is the most stable model of the universe and the one which best answers all the evidence we see in the cosmos.

But also, as far as I understand it, Galileo was thought to be in the wrong not necessarily for scientific views, but for implied theological arguments based on those views.

For example, scientifically and theologically I thought geocentrism was the prevailing view at that time among scientists (God created the earth as a kind of “moral center” of the universe of God’s Creation?); today acentrism (universe has no center) seems to be a prevailing scientific view. So by this logic, Galileo was wrong by modern scientific standards, and theologically some still argue for a kind of geocentrism or other such views (such as “galileowaswrong.com” or other such sites) against Galileo’s theological views.

Hence Galileo was rightly criticized for lacking religious caution; his rebellious attitude against religion (again, not necessarily for supporting a speculative scientific view) indeed has caused centuries of harm, pitting science against religion, whereas true science can never contradict religious truth.

  • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    6 days ago

    There was not a world-wide flood that killed all creatures except a few dozen animals and a couple humans on a boat.

    The earth is more than a few thousand years old.

    Life as it exists today evolved over billions of years as a result of natural selection. It was not created over the course of a week.

    A young man was not resurrected after being crucified.

    Angels did not destroy Sodom with fiery meteors from heaven, and no woman was turned into a pillar of salt by an omnipotent (and benevolent!) god.

    A young man did not cure leprosy, create bread and wine from nothing or transmute water into wine, walk on water, heal the blind, or otherwise use magic to cure illnesses.

    I can go on.

    Btw claiming that there are no objective morals is not the same claim as “Christianity objectively determines morality.” My claim is about whether an entire class of things - morals - are objectively determinable. Yours is that they are objectively determined by a specific book.

    • tacosanonymous@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      Probably don’t argue with these folk, especially about the scientific method. They’ll tell you that you can’t definitively prove anything then with the same breath express some belief as fact.

      • airrow@hilariouschaos.comOPEnglish
        12·
        6 days ago

        The OP comment may be thought to have done something like this, arguing for subjectivity of claims of truth and yet argued my views of religion were false; I suppose if we allow subjectivity of value to dominate, then we would simply have mutual disagreement

    • airrow@hilariouschaos.comOPEnglish
      13·
      6 days ago

      Actually there is evidence for a literal flood

      The earth is carbon dated; again it could have been created as such, or the theistic evolutionists are fine with it being old (not reakky proven one way or the other)

      “young man not resurrected after being crucified”

      again just an assertion with mutual disagreement (not dealing with science)

      Indeed Sodom and Gemorrah could have been destroyed by “fiery meteors”, again not a conflict with science (surely it’s logically understood an all-powerful God can arrange such a thing?)

      " young man did not transmite wine"

      again nothing to do with science, you simply don’t believe supernatural miracles can happen, which is understood.

      Yes, the disagreement about the existence of objective morality is different from claiming Christian morals are the “objectively correct” morals.

      • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        By definition supernatural miracles cannot be explained by science. That’s like their entire point.

        You not understanding the scientific explanations for events and history is not the same as the only explanation for those events being your god.