• starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      5 months ago

      They are pro war in the sense that they are pro supplying Ukraine with weapons to perform some sort of offensive operation. And they are against an immediate ceasefire. Nadezhda Tolokonnikova has been quite open about it

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        right - so fighting against an imperialistic intruder is being pro war. Guess all your heroes are pro war then??

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          All of my heroes think a just war is good, and an unjust war is bad. Russia is much less imperialist than NATO, the opposing faction.

          Russia winning this war is a much bigger blow to imperialism than the alternative.

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            So russia invading and occupying its neighbour is a just war and not imperialist?

            Cuck

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              Yes, Russia does not want imperialist NATO outposts on its border. The Russian government explicitly said this, and warned both NATO and Ukraine not to try it.

              The US and NATO, being the provocative aggressors that they are, poured tons of resources into establishing Ukraine as a NATO member. So then Russian invaded. It’s very simple. When you are faced with a globe-spanning warmonger that forces countries all around the world to hold its military bases, taking actions to prevent its growth is more anti-imperialist than imperialist.

              The US and NATO are also currently funding, supplying, and politically providing strategic support to a genocide to uphold a strategic regional ally in the middle east. Don’t pretend they are not the imperialists here.

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                5 months ago

                I might not like what my commie neighbour does, but that does not grant me the right to enter his house with guns and occupy his kitchen and kill his family.

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                  Your commie neighbor sounds way cooler than you, can I talk to him instead?

                  Okay, so now imagine a gang was going to use your neighbors house as a hideout and then take every opportunity to steal all of your shit and threaten to kill you if you did something they didn’t like.

                  Or you can just think of it as a matter of “national security” like when all the white nations got together and slaughtered a million people in the middle east. Russia is ensuring its own safety.

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                    Yeah - on an echo chamber for the winners! This is where all the successful smart people congregate

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          5 months ago

          fighting someone does not necessarily mean anything, but intending to prolong a war is indeed what pro war means. i dont know who you assume « all my heroes » are