• thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    I wish the team would just spent an entire year of bug fixing and refining user experience without adding new features or making big changes such as the new desktop edit mode. Don’t get me wrong, this is super exciting too, but for the complex nature of KDE it would be good if they keep a bit of focus after a major release.

      • D_Air1@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        5 months ago

        I swear I think of this every time someone mentions kde should just fix bugs. I follow Nate’s blog weekly and try to keep track of any other work that is going on. 90% of any kde release is polishing, bug fixing, and refactoring or outright replacing old code that was causing issues. For some reason, people seem to consider colors changing from blue to red a new feature.

      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        I guess you meant this as a joke, but for clarification, I meant no big changes such as new desktop edit mode. I wish the team would just focus of bug fixes and enhancements without introducing new elements or changing things up in a big way like this.

        • carzian@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          5 months ago

          This isn’t a joke. Often times rewriting features like this will allow the code to be more streamlined and use the latest KDE library features. This is brining new features using modern and more maintable code that solves long standing issues. Fixing the old code sometimes isn’t worth the effort for a variety of reasons (based on unmaintained libraries, the original code might have been written a while ago so it’s had many revisions of fixes that necessarily complicated the code, etc.)

          • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            You misunderstand me. They can write new code and be ready when the bug hunting phase is over. The end user only gets bug fixes. Later they can backport any new feature after the phase.

            • Brickardo@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              5 months ago

              I don’t think anyone has misunderstood you here. You misunderstood what you wrote in your first comment. The new desktop edit window is not proposing any new functionality that wasn’t there, but showcasing it in a more streamlined fashion. That’s in itself refining the user experience, which is exactly what you wanted.

              • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                5 months ago

                I don’t agree with you and explicitly listed it in my first reply as an example of what I consider a big change.

                • Brickardo@feddit.nl
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  The problem here is that we are dealing in largely imprecise terms. If we instead turn to semantic versioning for inspiring what we’d consider a large change, then Plasma 5 -> 6 is a big change, breaking previous API.

                  The new desktop edit effect is largely irrelevant under this rather precise terminology.

                  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    4
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    It is not irrelevant to me and I made it multiple times clear. Its a suggestion by me, regardless of what terminology you use or the team uses. The desktop edit change is a big change which I suggest not to do for a year. Only bug fixes and small changes that enhance and improve usability. The desktop edit change is a huge change for the developers and for the end user, with lot of background changes to make it work correctly, with lot of fixes after it.

                    Something that complex is not a small change and is not irrelevant for the topic I brought up. I made it multiple times clear now, I don’t know why you are still act like this. It’s not a definition of a term we are trying to agree, I don’t care the term.

    • krolden@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      It seems like a lot of the new features also fix old bugs by replacing the way they function.

    • Possibly linux
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      How dare you say that. We need more options that most people will never use