I was sort of holding on to hope, that something would change. Unfortunately, nothing did and so, here I am.
I’m really liking kbin so far, so I’m looking forward to spending more time with you all over here. ❤️
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It’s a shame to have to migrate away from a place when it was fundamentally damaged by terrible top-down decisions. 2023 really is the year of getting less for more.
Do you know how to hide posts on here once you’ve voted on them? That would be a nice feature
There’s a discussion about storing the things you’ve clicked on either in your local browsers storage (or DB) so that next time you go to your list we can highlight them with CSS differently (like show it at 0.5 opacity so it’s clear you’ve seen it)
That’s still an active discussion, but there’s nothing else settings wise right now that help you hide stuff you’ve already seen.
Hop over to Lemmy, you can still access kbin communities from over here. Kbin is pretty immature software-wise
If i just google “how do i lemmy” will that work?
Just killed mine a few ago. I was on for 9 years and although I was more of a lurker, I had some good times on there. So many good saved content, so many liked posts and comments, so many laughs and memories. I am ready to focus on kbin and start that all over here. Its like a good relationship that ended but I am ready to move on.
Yeah, going through my old posts and comments was fun and sad at the same time. BUT! I know I’ll make more fun memories here so yay!
I’m holding out on deleting mine until I know my comments and posts are staying gone. I went through PowerDeleteSuite twice and everything still came back, so we’ll see what happens.
I also don’t want to delete it because it’s closing the door on the time I spent there. Folks on Reddit helped me get through a lot of mess and sadness in my life. It feels like losing a friend.
I was holding onto my account as well. That was until just a few minutes ago. I was browsing /r/all to see if there was any remaining discussion on the API shutting down. I only came across a couple of threads, all of which, to varying degrees, misrepresented what is going on. Comments making lite of the impact of 3rd party apps dying, and completely ignoring the fact that the owner of Reddit is acting with complete disrespect towards those who made the platform what it is today.
At that moment, I didn’t give a shit about my account anymore. Are there bots astroturfing the comment section? Maybe. Are there users who are acting a little smug because they don’t feel negatively impacted at all yet? Probably. Whatever. They can have whatever is left of the site.
I’m not going to stand for this. It feels like in life, there are so many bad things that happen that we have no control over. This is something I have 100% control over. It’s so simple, just never go on Reddit again.
It was never about Reddit in the first place. It was just about hopping onto a forum and talking about games, current events, memes, comics, art, cats, etc. If /u/Spez and his ilk are going to be so disrespectful towards those who want to facilitate said forum, then I’ll find another one immediately.
It’s definitely more about the community than the actual site, that’s for sure. I haven’t been back on since Apollo dropped earlier tonight. Honestly not surprised that there are users being so crappy. They may not feel the impact now, but they will. And it will be interesting to watch the fallout from afar, and also to see how places like Kbin and Lemmy grow.
I totally agree with you… but don’t forget that lemmy.world ≠ lemmy. Kbin (afaik) is just another lemmy instance.
Kbin is its own separate software, not a Lemmy instance
I had the same feeling. It was a lot tougher for me to abandon reddit than Twitter, but ultimately I bit the bullet. I didn’t delete my account but replaced all content with a message about the change. Hope it stays up 🤞
Yeah, I was never on Reddit because it’s Reddit. It’s because that’s what replaced the insane number of forums I was an active user on.
Anything else that can provide me that however they want is where I’m gonna just go to for enjoyment. I am going to be bummed about no 3PA but simple mobile UI is enough to cater to me too lol.
My Reddit account is almost 13 years old, shame it ended this way. I didn’t delete it yet but all comments got edited.
Yep. Reddit is basically Digg now. I’m actually excited to start new. I just hope we can get past the “we just hate reddit” phase and build a community talking about real things
Yeah, that happened to me too. From what I understand, there’s like a 5 second cooldown when you edit/delete stuff, but PowerDeleteSuite doesn’t take that into account so some stuff just gets skipped. I had to go back and manually edit a bunch of comments.
There is a fork that does: https://github.com/pkolyvas/PowerDeleteSuite
I’m double checking tomorrow to make sure things are actually gone this time. If not, I’ll go through this one. Thank you!
I feel like playing No Doubt’s Don’t Speak on repeat. It is a weird collective mourning we’re going through.
Well done!!
Also, replace your comments with gibberish!
From the best I can tell mine has been staying deleted, although some keywords I thought I completely removed seemed to have still had some hits later, but not many. Hopefully most of what is left is just gibberish at this point. I meant to fully delete those, but oh well. I think it might make it easier for them to do roll backs when things are tagged with redact in the message sadly. I do just want to be done with it though.
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How long did it take for comments to come back?
It took about four days and every comment was back. I just checked this morning to see if anything has returned from when I cleared last night, and the more recent comments are gone, but I still have comments from last year that I’m working on now. My account is almost 10 years old, so I have a lot of activity to delete before deleting my account. Going to try the link from emrys a little ways up and see what happens there.
I really wasn’t ready as sick as I did until I started watching Redact edit every single comment one-by-one, watching so many years of comments going by. It’s rare to watch an era play back in front of you before it disappears like that. But at the same time I feel a lot more free to explore new platforms (like this one, this is my first comment on kbin :D). I’m ultimately glad that, while for abhorrent reasons, I was given the oppertunity to disconnect from Reddit and find more niche communities and websites again. I felt like it was 2004 all over again.
Welcome to kbin and the fediverse.
I wasn’t holding on to hope but I’m lazy so I kept using Apollo right up until the end. Created my account here a couple of weeks ago though. I like it here, feels like late 00s internet.
Ya I just made mine after RIF closed. I didn’t get to nuke my reddit account before thr api close tho
I used PowerDeleteSuite a few days ago and edited all of my comments, then I waited to see how many reverted back. I edited them again until they all stuck, then deleted them and checked if any would get unselected. Repeat until nothing was left. All that was left was to delete my account itself.
You can do it from the website directly though
Yeah, it does! Things are chaotic and they don’t quite work but it’s super neat because we get to see shape up and improve! And the dev seems pretty down to earth and responsive.
The amount of content is already fine. You are actually able to have meaningful discussions instead of being comment No 1000 that nobody reads.
Yup, was browsing on Apollo and it was working until it suddenly stopped. Interestingly enough, I had just tapped on Christian’s farewell post and the app crashed due to the API server being shut down.
Deleted the app, came here, spun up this account. See no need to go back to Reddit.
Honestly, if he’d ever had any intent of changing, that AMA would have actually bothered to be an AMA, and there was no reason he would have refused an offer to buy out and integrate any of what were clearly beloved apps.
It is funny to see how many feet he can fit in his mouth whenever he has to say anything at all to the press, though
Exactly!! That AMA was a shitshow greater than Woody’s.
Literally, all f-u/spez had to do was talk about rampart and avoid the questions about sexually abusing a high school girl and he could have matched Woody.
Can we stay on topic please?
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Been here since the blackouts started and it feels much more chill here.
Just pulled the plug on my 8 year old account as soon as Sync stopped working. I had already made my decision a few days ago once mods were being forcibly removed so this was merely a formality. It was still a sombre feeling watching it burn, but I’m glad that I can move on now.
Anyway, welcome and here’s to a new era without corporate enshittification.
Cancelled my Reddit premium subscription just before the boycott. Deleted my 8 year old account this morning. In the box where they asked me to explain why I wanted to delete my account I said ti was in direct response to how they handled everything and their blatant disregard and disrespect they showed to the users of Reddit who made that site what it is today.
Going to miss some things about it, but it was becoming a toxic wasteland, so, off to bigger and better things 😌
I deleted my 12 year old account the other month. Still have to delete my 7 year old alt account…thing is I can’t figure out how to delete my comments that were left in communities that went private, so that’s why I haven’t deleted it entirely yet.
Only thing I’m going to miss is the smaller communities I was a part of. The rest of it I won’t miss at all.
Thank you for your service and welcome aboard!
Thanks, I’ll really liking it over here so far, kind of rough around the edges but still pretty neat!
Yeah, this place seems super chill to me so far.
actually, i don’t even know where i am. are you accessing this info using lemmy or kbin? what is the difference? can i login and read these posts using lemmy, kbin, something else? i am so lost. it is time for a panic attack. what is happening???
I’m on kbin too. If you’re ever wondering where someone is commenting from, you can tap their username and their profile will show the instance name. If you’re ever wondering what platform the comments are hosted on, the sidebar (where it says magazine) is the easiest way to see that. I pay attention to that because I know some instances have different moderation rules - for example, Beehaw (which uses Lemmy) is a community that tries to create a safe and productive discussion environment, so I try to be mindful of my actions there to help make sure I’m not interfering when I visit. :) I like to think of it like traveling from my home country to other countries. Norms and customs might different, but we all have some commonalities in how we’re built and communicate at the end of the day.
Lemmy and kbin are just different types of software for communicating, kind of like how you can use an Outlook account or a Gmail account for email. They use the same protocols, but have different interfaces and features. Personally, I like kbin. But either is just fine. Technically, you could even use Mastodon to read this, though that would kind of be like using a terminal for email. It’s possible (I’m sure), it’s just not fine tuned for this type of content or use case.
You’ll get the hang of it quickly. Welcome, be nice, and have fun!
This magazine (magazines are like subreddits or communities, they are called magazines on kbin) is hosted on kbin. We know this because the address for the magazine is @[email protected]. The first @ sign is the name of the community, the second @ sign is the address of the instance that community is hosted on.
Your account address is @[email protected], so I can see you made your account on kbin.social. So you’re probably viewing this from kbin.social as well. Kbin.social is just an instance (a server) that you’re using to access the Fediverse.
So the community is on kbin.social, you’re on kbin.social, and I also happen to be on kbin.social. But that’s mostly just a coincidence. Say if my account were made on lemmy.world, then my account address would be @[email protected]. Because lemmy.world and kbin.social are federated, a lemmy.world user could reply to my comment.
As far as your day-to-day browsing, this isn’t super important to know about. But it can be helpful. For instnace, sometimes federated content can take awhile to move from instance to instance. This thread is still pretty new when I’m typing out this comment, so it might not have shown up on other instances yet. That’s why if you look around right now, it’s mostly people with kbin accounts participating. But give it an hour or two, and there might be a few comments from people using different instances in the fediverse.
I know that was a bit of an info dump, please let me know if there’s anything else I can help clarify. I’m still learning this too and find it pretty interesting.
Hey, that’s a really good explanation! Thanks for that!
yup we need more explanations like this. What we don’t want is knowledge being privately held and people being told “oh dont worry it all works just accept it”. That’s a recipe for alienation and disaster.
(im curious:
what is a “fediverse”
what is a “magazine”
exactly where is the info stored in the world
exactly who has control of which info)Is there a diagrammatic wiki where all this is explained? Otherwise it will be too easy for nefarious, evil, greedy, cruel, powermonger types to later on capture the whole of kbin or lemmy or whatever for themselves, and nobody will know what is going on until it is too later. sadly, it is already happening, if you read some of the replies. ugh. cliquey powermonger types…
the worst is where lemmy etc becomes like crypto - nobody knows what the fuck is going on except the very few, who all use big power words to pretend they are smart and hide functionality from everyone. that then produces fascist dictatorships, more hitler-type personalities will arise, then WW3.
yup we need more explanations like this. What we don’t want is knowledge being privately held and people being told “oh dont worry it all works just accept it”. That’s a recipe for alienation and disaster.
I think there’s a balancing act that we can achieve to this end. To use driving a car as an analogy, someone doesn’t need to know 100% of how a car works in order to learn how to drive it. But there are some basic mechanical things they can learn about that makes it safer for them. Like, how to check their oil.
If the barrier for entry for any social media, let alone Federalized social media, was 100% knowledge of everything, then no one would use it. However, there are absolutely a few things that should be known to stay empowered and safe.
what is a “fediverse”
The Fediverse is a collection of severs that talk to each other that publish info and host files. These severs are owned by lots of different people, they are hosted in many different locations, they run on different protocols. Kbin runs off of the Activity Pub protocol, so it can talk to other severs using Activity Pub. (The majority of the Fediverse uses Activity Pub currently).
Kbin has a Magazine where you can discuss the broader Fediverse: https://kbin.social/m/fediverse
What is a Magazine
A Magazine is what Kbin calls communities. We are currently on /m/RedditMigration (/m/ standing for Magazine). I just mentioned /m/fediverse. Some other good Magazines to note are /m/help for asking questions about Kbin, and /m/kbinMeta for discussing more administrative related issues about kbin.
exactly where is the info stored in the world
Lots of different places. If I recall right, Kbin is hosted both in Germany and Poland. But Kbin is not the Fediverse. Kbin is just one little part of it. So far, I’ve found this resource to be good to see more info about different servers: https://fedidb.org/network.
exactly who has control of which info
That is an extremely broad question. There’s lots of different information, different context in which that information is important, different touchpoints where different people might have control over what you see or don’t see.
Magazines or communities have moderators, much like how Reddit had moderators in Subreddits. Sever administrators can determine what instances they want to federate or defederate with. Individual users can block instances or other users.
Long story short, what makes answering that question so difficult is that the Fediverse is very decentralized. If we were talking about Reddit, then ultimately the puck stops with greddy little piggy /u/Spez, he controls your information. But since we’re on a much more decentralized platform, authority is held between many different people. I see it as a good thing imho.
Is there a diagrammatic wiki where all this is explained?
I have to answer a question with a question: what is a diagrammatic wiki? I’ve not heard of that before, and a quick google didn’t really give me a clear answer.
As far as where to go to have all this explained, the wiki article on the Feidverse is a good start imho if you really want to dig in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse. Otherwise, the magazines I listed earlier are good resources. There will be more resources in the future, this is all still very very new, particuarly on kbin. I’ve been piecing this all together by using the platform and learning about it for about 2 weeks.
They’re federated, so it doesn’t matter too much what instance your on, when it comes to content consumption.
Thank you both for explaining this. I feel lost as well; but will happily figure it out… with a bit of help
Everyone feels a little lost here at first. You just have to roll with confusion and take everything at your own pace. The best part is that 99.9% of the users are new here (within the last month), so no one’s gonna give you shit for not fully understanding.
Welcome!
You can access most places (if not all) in the Fediverse using your kbin account.
At the top, ‘threads’ are like posts on Reddit. ‘Microblogs’ are like posts on Twitter. ‘Magazines’ are like subreddits.
Every magazine gets their own wall for threads and microblogs.
So you can sign up for a specific instance of lemmy or kbin, and then see and interact with any content from any other instance of the Fediverse, provided they have not defederated. Where things get a little weird is how upcoming apps will function. I was told that Sync for Lemmy will likely require you to have a Lemmy account to sign in, but will still allow you to browse and post to any Fediverse content. This may end up being just a short-term issue until developers can “line up API endpoints”, whatever the Treknobabble that means.
What you’ve heard is right. If things keep progressing the way they are now, Kbin will also have mobile apps. It’s just that Kbin’s Application Programming Interface (API) isn’t finished yet. That’s what app developers need in order to easily make an app for Kbin. Lemmy does have an API, so that’s where most of the app development is taking place right now.
But Kbin will make it’s API available and there will be mobile apps for Kbin. I’m aware of at least one app that’s already in development, Artemis. The developer has a magazine here with a pinned FAQ: /m/Artemis.
I don’t fully know the answers but if it helps I’m using Kbin right now. Also I’ve discovered a web based Lemmy client called wefwef that is remarkably similar to Apollo - so I might well sign up for a Lemmy account too:
I’m running PowerDelete as we speak. Kinda sad to see it go, but also kind of liberating lol
Make sure you go back and check to make sure that everything got edited/deleted!
Yup, it’s all gone. I’ll check back now and then to make sure it doesn’t “mysteriously” reappear.
Make sure you get the fork with the 5 second time delay.
Damn, I wish I had known that that existed… I had to manually go back and edit/delete a bunch of stuff 😭
I used PDS at the beginning of the blackout and didn’t have a problem, and then I saw the post earlier this week saying reddit changed how quickly you can edit or delete comments. Then they posted about the fork. F-u/spez has been screaming that nothing is wrong and barely any blip happened in users, all while trying to subvert the mass delete and exodus from reddit.
I’m not going back. Spez can drown in his greed. My account was 14 years old.
I edited all my comments to be the same message. I don’t know what the benefit would be of deleting vs editing them. Ultimately the goal is that they can’t benefit from content I’ve created, right? Is there any benefit in deleting?
@spriteblood nah, editing is the way to go. mass deletion doesn’t seem to be working too well anyway.
Just opened the Apollo app and realized it works no more. Even though I knew it was coming it’s still a strange moment that I may rarely go back to Reddit.
Literally cannot believe this is how they handled things… very sad day! Worst part is, I’m sure they will be just fine and get the IPO they desperately want.
With fidelity cutting their valuation every couple months; I don’t think they’ll get the ipo they wanted. They may go public but it will be lackluster. F-I/spez has founder stock so he’ll get paid, but the rest of the people at hq will get shit
I think Fidelity is cutting those valuations independent of the protests though. I have a feeling they will all (or a lot of them) make a pretty penny. I know my buddy that works there will!
