75 Pittsburgh officers on leave after hourslong shootout and standoff during eviction attempt
www.nbcnews.com
The suspect, William Hardison Sr., shot at deputies trying to serve an eviction notice, resulting in a standoff that lasted about 6½ hours.

    Details are still scant, but…

“I mean, he had a lot of ammunition in that house, and certainly … all of us were strapped, you know, with ammunition, and we were calling for additional ammunition,” Kraus said. “Like I said, we tried to give him every opportunity to come out.”

    …I’ll go way out on a limb and suggest that this could’ve been handled better.

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
    3913·
    10 months ago

    I mean the guy could have not spent all his money on guns and ammo and pay rent?

    Where are guns on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs do you reckon?

    • sudo22@lemmy.worldEnglish
      175·
      10 months ago

      Ammo costs far less than rent and lasts far longer then just a month when purchased.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        1211·
        10 months ago

        It’s also not essential, so…

        (I know, I know, it’s hard for you guys to admit that guns aren’t the most important thing in life)

        • sudo22@lemmy.worldEnglish
          512·
          10 months ago

          You sound no different than boomers telling younger people to stop buying lattes and avocado toast to fix our financial burdens.

          (Under handed comments add nothing to the conversation, you just sound like an asshole)

          Edit: I thought this guy couldn’t afford rent and was another victim of the housing crisis, rather then just refusing to pay it (something about being a sovereign citizen). My bad.

          • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
            71·
            10 months ago

            Dude, if you’re budget is so tight that you can barely afford to pay your rent then choose your priorities. For that guy it was guns > rent? He deserves zero pity if he gets thrown out on the street. Heck, gun nuts are all about individual responsibilities? Well that’s what individual responsibilities looks like and it looks like he just couldn’t accept it so he felt the need to shoot at the people coming to evict him.

            • sudo22@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              10 months ago

              I meant more generally, arguing rent over ammo or other relatively inexpensive (vs rent) wants. Sorry I didn’t realize this particular individual seems to have been avoiding rent rather then unable to afford it.

              My bad.

              • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                3·
                10 months ago

                Even if it was an issue with being able to afford it instead of avoiding it, hoarding non essentials while you’re struggling to pay for essential needs is fucking ridiculous, sell that shit, keep a roof above your head.

                • sudo22@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  31·
                  10 months ago

                  Well part of my point is that ammo is very cheap. 1000 rounds of 22lr is like 100USD. Even 1000 rounds of 5.56/.223 (AR-15 ammo) starts around $500. Hence why I compared it to lattes and avocado toast. Cutting all that out doesn’t fix the cost of housing or slumping salaries.

                  Im speaking generally ofc, idk how much ammo this guy had. But more ammo than you could fire in 6 hours is cheaper than youd expect.

                  • That_One_Demon@lemmy.world
                    21·
                    10 months ago

                    If you think 100 dollars is cheap then you probably shouldn’t be talking about the prices of necessities vs amenities. I bought gas today and now have less then 100 dollars to my name. I’m making it work, but don’t act like dropping that kind of cash to shoot at cops for a few minutes is cheap. Let alone a 6+ hours.

          • SCB@lemmy.world
            31·
            10 months ago

            Guarantee you that him just liquidating the guns and ammo would’ve been enough money for a new apartment or to pay his rent.

            Dude didn’t want to pay and wanted to fight the gov because he was a SovCit.

            Sources said Hardison believed he was a sovereign citizen, meaning he thought he was exempt from the law.

            A Channel 11 News photographer discovered a video of Hardison during a prior interaction with police in 2019. In the video, you can see a Moorish flag, which is flown by Moorish sovereign citizens.

            Hardison had a criminal history dating back to at least 2000.

            Source: further nested news links if you chase the articles back.