75 Pittsburgh officers on leave after hourslong shootout and standoff during eviction attempt
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The suspect, William Hardison Sr., shot at deputies trying to serve an eviction notice, resulting in a standoff that lasted about 6½ hours.

    Details are still scant, but…

“I mean, he had a lot of ammunition in that house, and certainly … all of us were strapped, you know, with ammunition, and we were calling for additional ammunition,” Kraus said. “Like I said, we tried to give him every opportunity to come out.”

    …I’ll go way out on a limb and suggest that this could’ve been handled better.

    • SCB@lemmy.world
      21·
      10 months ago

      They didn’t need to be because a dude with a gun is not nearly that big a deal.

      That’s how silly it is that people buy guns to try to overthrow the government

      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
        21·
        10 months ago

        Ok but imagine 1000 dudes like this

        Even the military would find that difficult to deal with

        • SCB@lemmy.world
          11·
          10 months ago

          No they would not lol. They’d just bomb the house.

          Once the military is involved, ordinance and utter air superiority is also involved.

          “Dudes with guns” have a 0% chance of defeating the US military. People bring up vietnam and Afghanistan as if A) those wars weren’t heavy on RoE and more about military policing than war - which a revolution most assuredly would not be and B) the kill ratio of those conflicts is in US favor by shit like 30+ to 1. That’s in enemy territory, thousands of miles from home, with stretched logistics lines, and a hostile or at best indifferent local populace outside of every major city.

          The US lost fewer than 2,000 soldiers to enemy actions in Afghanistan. That’s fewer people than died in 9/11, spread out over 2 decades. That’s more than 1/3rd fewer people than the US lost in just the battle of Iwo Jima.

          Once you consider that these “armed revolutionaries” will be viewed as terrorists by at minimum 160 million of their neighbors, and they will be denied all critical infrastructure, funding, and support, it is a no-brainer that they will be slaughtered. That’s even assuming these irregulars count as soldiers and wouldn’t just piss and shit themselves once they started getting bombed from beyond visual range. War is really fucking scary and the average angry shut-in cannot handle it.

          The math just doesn’t hold up. This isn’t a real option - it’s a dangerous, radicalizing fantasy that encourages lone wolves and militias to attack soft targets.