The thing to learn is that there’s no hope to be found in the ‘democratic’ system that’s in place. It’s going to get worse, not because we didn’t vote for the genocidal fascist with the exact same policies as the other uncouth genocidal fascist, but because of more fundamental forces are going to continue to play out either way. It’s about getting past that step in ‘what should I do’ to the next one.
You can struggle with yourself over the premise but once you acknowledge it’s true, you have to pick yourself up and move on to planning for the future we’re stuck with and how to connect that end with the future we all deserve.
Help my community as best I can by volunteering and hopefully organizing, vote on select local issues, and donating to try and negate the damage your guy 99% Hitler does
What’re you gonna do besides whine at leftists and vote blue on everything?
There are literal books filled with thoughts on how to approach electoral participation that you could read if you earnestly cared. Parenti covers it, Marx covers it in Kapital, Lenin covers it in State and Revolution, and that’s just the basics
Ahh so you’re going to do all the same shit that millions of the “vote blue” people you so casually dismiss are already doing, while also making it easier for trump to get into office and make things worse, faster.
“vote blue” ppl are probably not volunteering and organizing in anything meaningful. campaigning for a fascist corpse so he can defeat the more lively fascist is not meaningful.
democrats are identical to republicans on immigration, healthcare, wage stagnation, and tax breaks for the wealthy. and their inaction on abortion, the dismantling of LGBT rights, and climate change make them effectively no different from republicans on this. so what makes them better?
im not voting for someone who entered politics as a segregationist and hasnt demonstrated meaningful change in that position. someone who is “personally opposed” to abortion. someone who allowed the right to take away our rights while he was the head of state/government
if we vote for biden it sends the message that we are okay with what is happening, what he is allowing to happen. even if biden said he would fight for Medicare for all and a $15 min wage, why should i believe him? what has he kept his promise on? i can name one promise he kept: nothing will fundamentally change. except that was only a half-truth bc it actually got worse
So, what do you do? You go to work and do your job and don’t make waves like a good serf, vote for m’lord every 2-4 years, donate to an NGO run by some billionaire’s failchild making $250k a year as they spend 90% of donations on admin? Sneer at homeless people, why can’t they just get a job and pay rent like everybody else? Volunteer once a year, probably between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and say “well I’ve done my part for this disgusting poors!”
And then you and your family die in a wet bulb event because the power grid couldn’t handle it. Or you catch the next pandemic virus and are unable to work, so you end up panhandling on the street, and the cops who you support and who your guy gave a ton of money and military equipment to beat the shit out of you for fun, leaving you to die, alone in an alley.
Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing! The billionaires will surely solve this!
Don’t forget being a smug, wrong pedant on a niche leftist forum lmao
On reddit, the performative idiots like this tended to explain themselves by saying they were making a point that was directed less at their target of condescension and more to any prospective readers
Who is gonna read this besides lemmee denizens and hexbear users, all of whom firmly made up their minds years ago in all likelihood?
I don’t know any “vote blue” people who do this kind of stuff. If they do anything it’s show up for one large protest, co-opt it, and then shame people for fighting back against the inevitable police violence.
Hey now, they’ll also vote for the midterms. Maybe even knock some doors for Joe, you know really entrench him as the only viable option. That’s like 4 full days at least
The thing to learn is that there’s no hope to be found in the ‘democratic’ system that’s in place. It’s going to get worse, not because we didn’t vote for the genocidal fascist with the exact same policies as the other uncouth genocidal fascist, but because of more fundamental forces are going to continue to play out either way. It’s about getting past that step in ‘what should I do’ to the next one.
You can struggle with yourself over the premise but once you acknowledge it’s true, you have to pick yourself up and move on to planning for the future we’re stuck with and how to connect that end with the future we all deserve.
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Help my community as best I can by volunteering and hopefully organizing, vote on select local issues, and donating to try and negate the damage your guy 99% Hitler does
What’re you gonna do besides whine at leftists and vote blue on everything?
There are literal books filled with thoughts on how to approach electoral participation that you could read if you earnestly cared. Parenti covers it, Marx covers it in Kapital, Lenin covers it in State and Revolution, and that’s just the basics
Ahh so you’re going to do all the same shit that millions of the “vote blue” people you so casually dismiss are already doing, while also making it easier for trump to get into office and make things worse, faster.
About the answer I expected lol
“vote blue” ppl are probably not volunteering and organizing in anything meaningful. campaigning for a fascist corpse so he can defeat the more lively fascist is not meaningful.
democrats are identical to republicans on immigration, healthcare, wage stagnation, and tax breaks for the wealthy. and their inaction on abortion, the dismantling of LGBT rights, and climate change make them effectively no different from republicans on this. so what makes them better?
im not voting for someone who entered politics as a segregationist and hasnt demonstrated meaningful change in that position. someone who is “personally opposed” to abortion. someone who allowed the right to take away our rights while he was the head of state/government
if we vote for biden it sends the message that we are okay with what is happening, what he is allowing to happen. even if biden said he would fight for Medicare for all and a $15 min wage, why should i believe him? what has he kept his promise on? i can name one promise he kept: nothing will fundamentally change. except that was only a half-truth bc it actually got worse
I forgot how voting against an anti abortion amendment in my state is the same as voting for genocide Joe.
If you’d actually read any theory, you’d have noticed the nuance present regarding electoralism.
So smug, wrong, and unwilling to change or read more than two sentences; you came to reinforce your own views and will leave none the wiser.
So, what do you do? You go to work and do your job and don’t make waves like a good serf, vote for m’lord every 2-4 years, donate to an NGO run by some billionaire’s failchild making $250k a year as they spend 90% of donations on admin? Sneer at homeless people, why can’t they just get a job and pay rent like everybody else? Volunteer once a year, probably between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and say “well I’ve done my part for this disgusting poors!”
And then you and your family die in a wet bulb event because the power grid couldn’t handle it. Or you catch the next pandemic virus and are unable to work, so you end up panhandling on the street, and the cops who you support and who your guy gave a ton of money and military equipment to beat the shit out of you for fun, leaving you to die, alone in an alley.
Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing! The billionaires will surely solve this!
Don’t forget being a smug, wrong pedant on a niche leftist forum lmao
On reddit, the performative idiots like this tended to explain themselves by saying they were making a point that was directed less at their target of condescension and more to any prospective readers
Who is gonna read this besides lemmee denizens and hexbear users, all of whom firmly made up their minds years ago in all likelihood?
They’re just here to be an aggro dickhead
It’s practice mode for debating these fools IRL or more public online spaces.
I don’t know any “vote blue” people who do this kind of stuff. If they do anything it’s show up for one large protest, co-opt it, and then shame people for fighting back against the inevitable police violence.
“I’m doing my part!”
[Gives $20 to Human Rights Campaign]
OK, so I will take your argument and go spend 30 minutes to an hour to go fill in some bubbles at my local voting site.
Great, now what are YOU doing in the other 364 days?
Hey now, they’ll also vote for the midterms. Maybe even knock some doors for Joe, you know really entrench him as the only viable option. That’s like 4 full days at least