This is Left Praxis, LIBERALS would never understand the 4d chess involved in how Trump winning helps Palestine and American minorities.

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    Someone would have to be out of their mind to interpret anything I have said as being a Trump apologist. Weren’t you just complaining about “purging” over disagreements? You seem perfectly happy to call me a “Trump apologist” for pointing out history. Recognizing that Trump is part of a broader pattern of conservative policies can only help.

    And Trump was not the only coup in the US https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_massacre

    But there are plenty of ways Republicans are currently awful, and have been awful. Are you saying that January 6th was worse than the genocidal handling of the AIDS crisis, worse than successful US-backed coups in South America? Worse than the GOPs ongoing history of voter suppression? It’s all bad.

    edit: v cute how quickly you downvoted me 🥺

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      And Trump was not the only coup in the US https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_massacre

      And here I thought it was apparent that I was talking about the national government when discussing the fucking USA. And that’s not a fucking autocoup in any case, which is what I said.

      Someone would have to be out of their mind to interpret anything I have said as being a Trump apologist.

      But there are plenty of ways Republicans are currently awful, and have been awful. Are you saying that January 6th was worse than the AIDS crisis, worse than successful US-backed coups in South America? Worse than the GOPs ongoing history of voter suppression? It’s all bad.

      Uh huh. Sure. Making equivalences of the first attempted autocoup with prior Republican policy doesn’t sound like Trump apologia at all.

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        Do you really not see the parallels of a white supremacist coup? Even if it is state, and not federal?

        So … you do think January 6th is worse than all that? You just want to ignore history? Why? Republicans have been bad? Can you please explain why you want to deny that Republicans have always had awful, anti-democratic strategies that rely on disenfranchisement? Trump is part of a larger pattern, there is a reason he was able to rise to power. It’s not like Hitler was the first person to think up anti-semetism.

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          It’s not like Hitler was the first person to think up anti-semetism.

          And if you tried to play apologist for Hitler by trying to make an equivalence between him and all prior antisemites, it would sound about the same as this does.

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            Have you never heard of antisemitic pogroms?Hitler had technological advances for his genocide, but he was far from the first.

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                I am responding to your exact message. You said

                And if you tried to play apologist for Hitler by trying to make an equivalence between him and all prior antisemites, it would sound about the same as this does.

                And I said:

                Have you never heard of antisemitic pogroms?Hitler had technological advances for his genocide, but he was far from the first.

                If you think that’s a non-sequitor, that explains a lot of your attempts at discussion.

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                  Tell me more about how previous antisemitic pogroms and the Holocaust were equivalent.

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                    They just didn’t have the technology to enact something on the scale of the Holocaust, but the genocidal intent was the same. Not to mention the hundreds of years of legal subjugation and regular scapegoating. I don’t see why you think it’s useful for you to pretend that Republican extremeism is new, if anything this is the latest iteration of an ongoing plan. One could definitely argue that it’s urgent to outvote Trump, and acknowledge his place in the context of history. What you are doing is intellectually dishonest.