• TunaCowboy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Braindead take, is Biden gonna come to my rescue when some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch?

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      Sounds like a similar argument to how christofascists justify owning military weapons. It’s very disturbing from a European point of view.

      • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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        The countries with nukes get permanent seats on the UN Security Council.

        Maybe once the US has been around for a few more centuries it’ll be different. in the meantime, if the crazies are armed you should be too.

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          That’s military not civilians, it seems justified as long as there are authoritarian regimes with imperialist ideas. Completely unrelated to civilians having military weapons. Unless you’re saying civilians should have nukes too.

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          Seems Ukrainian stopped it pretty well without having civilians carrying military weapons outside of military duty.

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            Not true at all. Ukraine was handing out AKs like candy to any citizen willing to fight for several days before the invasion.

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              Because they were expecting a foreign military invasion, it still is military duty.

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                Nope. A civilian fighting in a war does not make them part of the military. It makes them a civilian fighting in a war.

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        4 months ago

        If you think arming yourself because there are organized fascists in the country is a similar argument to fascists wanting guns to do fascism you’re a fascist and nothing less.

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          Ah, didn’t know you would consider most of EU and the developed world to be fascist, thanks for the insult.

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        Soon to be “our”. And not just in America, unfortunately.

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            I don’t think you know what the world is like outside your gun nut bubble.

            Then you should probably be a little less judgy about what folks think they need to do to defend themselves within that bubble.

            Since you aren’t from the US, you may not be aware of Project 2025, but “some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch” is a plausible eventual outcome for many over here if Trump gets in again.

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                I’m not even a gun owner buddy, but I’m not going to pretend the world is going to stay safe for everyone who isn’t (or can’t pretend to be) a white cishet christian if Project 2025 comes to pass.

                Edit: They are already ramping it up more, as if that were possible. They want to be ready to hit the ground running on Day 1 of Trump’s second term. https://www.advocate.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-rnc

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                  Yeah a ton of people will lose their rights with project 2025, but how does having a gun help you fix that? Are you talking about like civilization declining into groups of people killing each other in the streets?

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                    Have you not followed the context of this discussion that led to this seeming disagreement we’re now having? Please note, I am not the commenter in the picture below. I was explaining why someone would have this worry. If you think the worry is invalid or overblown, OK, I don’t feel the need to argue with you about it.

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            Gun nut? I’m not replying regarding guns, but the rise of right wing nationalism

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          I’m with you until the last part, I’ve tasted it, and I wouldn’t wish it on DJT himself. I understand the emotion, but there’s a better way homie

        • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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          Hey, I appreciate you at least. At my old job they had a big office in Monterrey, and they were some of the most hard working teams I had the pleasure to work with. I absolutely lost my shit if anyone treated them any differently and I hated how the company ran that division. Working with those teams is the only thing I miss.

          The fact that they always had to get permission for any time off from the team leads, were scrutinized for every cent, and often not even given the tools they needed for their job, all in the name of “saving” money, was absolute bullshit. There really were some ridiculous double standards. We never denied time off and purchased what you needed. We knew how shitty the system was and did what we could.

          So, one shitty American to an awesome Mexican, thank you. For every cook, every maid, field slave, factory worker, engineer, installer, and human from your country that just wants to exist somewhere safe, feed their family, and have a roof over your head, thank you.