• SuperCub@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I listened to it. It was an OK speech, but it willfully ignored the agency of Israel in the destruction of the Palestinian people. She called Hamas terrorists, but what about Israel? What do you call an administration and a nation’s army that’s committing genocide? She gave no scoldings to Israel, which to me is weak sauce.

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        It’s a stupid tightrope but in America almost every politician has to walk it. It doesn’t help the the tightrope is a milkshake duck.

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        The 269 - 144 House vote barring the State Department from even reporting Gaza death statistics should make it clear to anybody how powerful the Israel lobby is.

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          Okay cool, but it would still be electoral suicide if she goes all out, so she can’t do what you want her to do. She would have absolutely no power to actually do anything about it if she doesn’t win the election, and Trump has already said that he wants Israel to “win its war on terror” and imprison anti-war protesters, so Harris losing the election is decidedly the worst possible outcome for Palestine.

          So it’s time to put aside whatever ideals you want to demand, and start accepting that Harris is leaps and bounds ahead of most other politicians on Israel/Palestine, and she’s already making it part of her campaign in a way that Biden never did.

          These are critical moments. Before throwing criticism at the only person standing between Democracy and Dictatorship, consider everything that is at stake in this election, and ask yourself if it’s worth the effort to be fighting Harris when there’s literally a Neo-Nazi party trying to destroy the foundations of our country.

          • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            Huh? I’m agreeing with you completely - I mentioned the House vote to help illustrate why Harris can’t go hard against the Israel lobby.

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      I think this was pretty much the best that could be expected from an american presidential candidate. Israel’s position in the geopolitical balance of power makes it impossible for her to just outright denounce them. She’s signalling that she’s (hopefully) going to be less limp-wristed than Biden was on the issue, but the US’s hands are largely tied when it comes to Israel - at least for as long as the forward outpost in the Middle East is as desirable as it still is to US interests.

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        Not just the strategic value, but also the fact that the Netanyahu camp and allies will cry “antisemitism” in the face of any significant criticism, which could be disastrous for an election campaign.

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        All she had to do was say “Two wrongs don’t make a right. End the genocide.” Netanyahu has a warrant for arrest by the international criminal court. Israel’s only remaining ally is the US at this point.