It’s even crazier than that, duckduckgo Rod of Iron Ministries and Moonies. It’s a church started by the son of a massive cult leader after his father died and there was a power struggle in the cult.

Bordering awfully close on breaking the law with that ad. If only the US would enforce the law restricting religious organizations from engaging in politics.

Haha, it’s just crazy. I don’t even know what to say. I grew up in the church, with parents who were social workers and family counselors. What they did every day was so, so far away from this atrocity. Fucking guns? Was Jesus militant? I mean, I guess he wasn’t white either so even the Jesus from my childhood was a whitewashed farce. How did we get from “turn the other cheek” to high capacity assault rifle?

Here’s my thing. I do not believe that a civil war is “inevitable”. I think JD Vance is just full of shit, and is trying to stir shit, because thats all his side does.

That aside. Lets entertain for just a moment, that we will enter a civil war, as they are saying.

I don’t know how big the interior of this building is, but lets just say this idea of maga churches is the new blueprint. And just for averages, lets call it each church a 300 person church. Maybe a bit bigger than some churches, but certainly a modest size compared to other churches. Now look at the bible belt. Churches EVERYWHERE. And now, rather than putting the focal point on religion, you’re putting the focal point on a political figure.

Ok.

So now you’ve gathered 300 like minded people in one building. You’ve turned away any left leaning religious people. Maybe not by force, but by design. You’ve created a place where in the “house of god”, only certain people are accepted. Lets ignore the hypocracy of that for now, because it’s par for the coarse. Lets concentrate on the fact that you now have 300ish people in one open air room, that presumably only has one set of entrances/exits.

And this group of people fully believes a civil war is coming. Whats to stop some random guy from standing in the doors of this service, and firing some automatic machine gun? Sure, he won’t kill all 300 of them, and yes, I fully expect he’d get shot eventually…but I think he can kill off 50ish people before they even have time to react just from how tightly packed in rows people are.

And these people are out there. We JUST had some guy climb on top of a small building with a sniper riffle, and get INCHES from killing trump.

Its not some grand conspiracy either. It’s one side, in an effort to rile up their base saying things like civil war is coming, and just as their own base gets scared, so too does the other side. Absolutely zero thought goes into this, and then they act surprised when some nutjob grabs a gun, and decides he’s some kind of chosen one.

This is a concept I learned in 2nd grade called “cause and effect”. Well if you’re fox news, and your goal is to get republicans scared, and ready for war, then the effect is PEOPLE get scared and ready for war. You CANNOT control people. You can contain people, you can oppress people, but you cannot control them. Each person thinks and views things differently. There will ALWAYS be an opposing side. So if you try to stir up fear and anxiety in YOUR base, you can’t predict how anyone will react to that. You can’t target your base, with fear mongering, and then tell the other side everything is fine.

Because now, all you’ve done is created the perfect cocktail for your own downfall. Unless someone is wearing a Harris or a Trump shirt, or hat, or something indentifiable, then you don’t know WHICH side a person sits on. A man could walk to this church, even wearing a maga shirt, and then you’ve hearded these people in, sat them in an open air room, identified them all as people on the other side of a ficticious civil war, and then you’re going to be surprised when some John Rambo wannabe comes in and just mows people down.

Am I the ONLY one who sees the dominos that haven’t fallen, but are designed to hurt those who are represented by those who set the dominoes up???

Between stuff like this, and the system design of the TSA lines, this country is pretty lucky that people like me AREN’T trying to cause chaos. At least stadiums and arenas think it through. There’s probably a way to bring a gun into a stadium, but it’s not blatantly obvious, and it seems secure. Which is often the first line of defense against threats, is not seeming like easy pickings.

But stuff like this makes me wonder how stupid these guys are. Way to think it through…

90% sure the “Rod of Iron” church has a lot of naughty oiled buff sinners.

Disgusting.

Oh, those are the people that pray with their guns in their hands! I’m honestly surprised no one has accidentally been killed in that place

I read that as “mini series” the first time and it made way more sense.

…think I saw one of their churches in a movie once.

Their website sure is…something…