The killing has reignited anger in France at police violence, especially against people of color. On Thursday, after two nights of violent protests, riot police officers fired tear gas to break up a march being held for the slain 17-year-old.
Lower taxes, subsidies, avoiding government prices hikes, public policy regarding police action - all sorts of things - this article explains it pretty well
June 4th, 2023, 300 Germans set fire to police barricades and attacked Leipzig police officers. The rioters were protesting jail sentences for people who attacked neo-nazis.
These are protests to breaches by authority against standing political, social and economic infrastructure rather than the infrastructure itself you are referring to; that infrastructure is as in place in France as it is in Germany.
From 62 to 64, and they rioted. For comparison Canada retirement age is 65 and many is states is 67. Your statement implies that the French retirement age is an outlier and it’s really not.
There’s an army of institutions and economists who reviewed the issue over and over with 1 conclusion: there were many different solutions, raising the retirement age was ONE of them. So this was not necessary. This was a choice.
The system is a “simple” in/out equation. Twice in the past years this government has reduced the money in. Now they tell everyone they “saved” the system and there was no other solution. That’s all BS.
And by the way: looks like they couldn’t even do their math properly, because the system will still run a deficit by 2030. They counted some revenue twice.
So much for “the experts”…
This is like making fun of a fireman using a bucket of water that’s twice as large as your bucket to put out a house fire.
They pay twice as much in taxes. Vs the ludicrous cost of most basic citizen necessities in the United States .
Pay twice as much in taxes, you get affordable/basically free healthcare and adorable/basically free higher education(medical school is 2k a year in France). Affordable, reliable long-distance transportation/physical transportation infrastructure, a living and functional social security, but sure. Careful of those taxes you could pay that would cover all basic human necessities plus all major financial concerns until you croak.
As an example, instead of paying $3,000 in taxes per year, you could pay $6,000 in taxes per year, and you would be free to pursue any education you liked, including medical school, for $1000-$2000 per year instead of paying 30k per year just to learn core classes. Good thing you saved that 3k during tax season.
Thank you, this is my point: Other countries are doing healthcare and education better than the US, cheaper for everyone, with less bureaucracy and better results.
The US would save almost half a trillion a year by switching to Medicare for all.
It’s absolutely cheaper, unless you’re pretending that taxes are your only expense.
Want to get a be a doctor in the US? 50k to 60k. vs. public education, 1k-4k a year.
Just by going to school in the US, you are crippling yourself financially. Chronic illness? Financially crippling. Car crash injuries? Root canal?
French socialized medicine? A nominal fee for far better healthcare.
Saving a few thousand a year does not offset the tens of thousands of dollars US college students pay every semeste, nor devastating medical debt for anyone with common illnesses, nor millions list in crumbling transportation infrastructure, nor the paltry social security that seniors cannot live on, nor the complete lack of combat veteran support for medical care or housing. Three thousand a year does not cover a fraction of any of these costs in the for-profit US systems.
Ever maintain your car? What is more cost-effective? Changing the fluids and filters annually or buying a new car annually?
The savings are mathematical fact proved for decades by every country using socialized services.
Sounds a lot like “it’s not my problem until it actually affects me personally”.
I don’t know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities.
I mean, when you consider the US government spends more (almost twice as much) on healthcare per capita than most countries with free healthcare, you’re literally paying more taxes for it AND you have to shell out 50k$ when something bad happens.
Your only argument is “Taxes bad” even when we’re talking about a system that would actually cost less taxes, just because it has a side effect of also helping less fortunate people.
Lower taxes, subsidies, avoiding government prices hikes, public policy regarding police action - all sorts of things - this article explains it pretty well
https://time.com/5476534/french-protests-successful-macron/?amp=true
We have the same stuff in Germany without burning shit down…
Actually:
June 4th, 2023, 300 Germans set fire to police barricades and attacked Leipzig police officers. The rioters were protesting jail sentences for people who attacked neo-nazis.
Source:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/04/europe/leipzig-germany-lina-e-far-left-protest-intl/index.html
These are protests to breaches by authority against standing political, social and economic infrastructure rather than the infrastructure itself you are referring to; that infrastructure is as in place in France as it is in Germany.
I haven’t said we don’t have such things at all, we have much much less.
You said “We have the same stuff in Germany without burning shit down…”
The article I replied with references Germans “burning shit down” this month to effect change.
Me not even having known it should already tell you that its absolutely irrelevant…
But yes it does happen, but way less than in france, its basically a joke in france nowadays and fucks them up economically.
Ah yes, “The Economy”, the favorite catch all of politicians.
I don’t know about you, but from here it looks like it’s going to go to shit whether we burn stuff or not.
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From 62 to 64, and they rioted. For comparison Canada retirement age is 65 and many is states is 67. Your statement implies that the French retirement age is an outlier and it’s really not.
Macro saved France with that, he can’t run again anyway so he will now push policys that are “against the public opinion” but necessary.
There’s an army of institutions and economists who reviewed the issue over and over with 1 conclusion: there were many different solutions, raising the retirement age was ONE of them. So this was not necessary. This was a choice.
The system is a “simple” in/out equation. Twice in the past years this government has reduced the money in. Now they tell everyone they “saved” the system and there was no other solution. That’s all BS.
And by the way: looks like they couldn’t even do their math properly, because the system will still run a deficit by 2030. They counted some revenue twice. So much for “the experts”…
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“Astronomically”.
This is like making fun of a fireman using a bucket of water that’s twice as large as your bucket to put out a house fire.
They pay twice as much in taxes. Vs the ludicrous cost of most basic citizen necessities in the United States .
Pay twice as much in taxes, you get affordable/basically free healthcare and adorable/basically free higher education(medical school is 2k a year in France). Affordable, reliable long-distance transportation/physical transportation infrastructure, a living and functional social security, but sure. Careful of those taxes you could pay that would cover all basic human necessities plus all major financial concerns until you croak.
As an example, instead of paying $3,000 in taxes per year, you could pay $6,000 in taxes per year, and you would be free to pursue any education you liked, including medical school, for $1000-$2000 per year instead of paying 30k per year just to learn core classes. Good thing you saved that 3k during tax season.
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You don’t want health care, social security or education?
You think that right now your taxes are only paying for things you want?
You’d rather pay $33000 for an emergency appendectomy you had no preparation for than $4000?
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Implying you would rather pay an extra 30k for a surgery.
There’s no “extent”. You get the same or better services(France is ranked 7th in healthcare, US is 30th worldwide), but far cheaper.
https://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/
Thank you, this is my point: Other countries are doing healthcare and education better than the US, cheaper for everyone, with less bureaucracy and better results.
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The gargantuan savings of paying 10 times as much for any medical, dental, vision or internal medical diagnosis or procedure?
Yale epidemiologists(and every other research scientist) prove that socialized medicine is cheaper:
https://www.citizen.org/news/fact-check-medicare-for-all-would-save-the-u-s-trillions-public-option-would-leave-millions-uninsured-not-garner-savings/
The US would save almost half a trillion a year by switching to Medicare for all.
It’s absolutely cheaper, unless you’re pretending that taxes are your only expense.
Want to get a be a doctor in the US? 50k to 60k. vs. public education, 1k-4k a year.
Just by going to school in the US, you are crippling yourself financially. Chronic illness? Financially crippling. Car crash injuries? Root canal?
French socialized medicine? A nominal fee for far better healthcare.
Saving a few thousand a year does not offset the tens of thousands of dollars US college students pay every semeste, nor devastating medical debt for anyone with common illnesses, nor millions list in crumbling transportation infrastructure, nor the paltry social security that seniors cannot live on, nor the complete lack of combat veteran support for medical care or housing. Three thousand a year does not cover a fraction of any of these costs in the for-profit US systems.
Ever maintain your car? What is more cost-effective? Changing the fluids and filters annually or buying a new car annually?
The savings are mathematical fact proved for decades by every country using socialized services.
Sounds a lot like “it’s not my problem until it actually affects me personally”.
I don’t know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities.
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I mean, when you consider the US government spends more (almost twice as much) on healthcare per capita than most countries with free healthcare, you’re literally paying more taxes for it AND you have to shell out 50k$ when something bad happens.
Your only argument is “Taxes bad” even when we’re talking about a system that would actually cost less taxes, just because it has a side effect of also helping less fortunate people.
How much more egocentric can you get lmao
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Not unless you’re in like Arizona or Florida or other shit low-taxes states full of freedumb.
My man here has decided community services like The Fire Department and infrastructure like The Roads are not important to him.