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    In the US, maybe. But that’s considered a flawed democracy and getting worse all the time. Only 8% of the nations on earth are full democracies, a number that continues to fall because of the pessimism and stupidity promulgated by authoritarian regimes.

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      Germany on “full democracy” at the same time it bans symbols of Palestinian support and uses the state’s violence to contain such manifestations.

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        Germany bans stuff al the time. It’s a consequence of our history and the historic leniency towards extremist edges. Your example is debatable in it’s execution, the general thought however is not.

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            I didn’t say not to protest.

            In fact protesting is incredibly useful when the calls of many go unheard or ignored.

            And having an effective protest is only possible if you can get a lot of people together, so it’s best to not shit on people from hello for saying exactly what you think is the “right” thing.

            Not to mention having a large community of people reaching out before having to protest is also helpful, so doing good community building is also important.

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        I’d like to know your sources, because to my knowledge there is no such ban in Germany.

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          ??? I am allowed to fly the Palestinian flag, attend the marches, and say the chants whenever I want. The only thing we really cannot do in America is disrupt college campuses while classes are in session and riot. The three things I listed earlier are completely banned in Germany.

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            It was pro-Israel protesters that rioted and pro-Palestine/anti-genocide protesters that paid the price.

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      Haha! Australia is a full democracy? What a joke!

      Australia is America’s bitch. Even if our politicians gave a shit, they couldn’t do anything.

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          It must be very convenient to assume everyone to your left is a Russian shill. Means you don’t have to waste a single second thinking about what they have to say.

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      URUGUAY MENTIONED🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾WHAT THE CRAP IS AN UNSTABLE COUNTRY

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      UK is a full democracy? That’s a fucking joke, literally all of this applies here. Including no-fault (read: spoke out against landlord or asked for repairs) evictions.

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        Finland is also a fucking joke.

        Reminds me of the time that Madventures bros were in India, talking to a local policeman, and said “Finland is said to be the least corrupt nation in the world” and the Indian policeman laughed so heartily into his moustache I almost fell off my chair.

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          You can do all of the shit mentioned in the post without getting the consequences.

          “Finland is said to be the least corrupt nation in the world” and the Indian policeman laughed so heartily into his moustache

          Which country did the policeman think was less corrupt if we rank so low in his opinion?

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            Which country did the policeman think was less corrupt if we rank so low in his opinion?

            Youre genuinely asking me what some person I saw on TV thinks? How would I know? Even Professor X would have trouble reading someone’s mind through TV.

            The point is the blind faith in that there’s no corruption, which is kept up by corruption.

            I too used to think you we have just the most wonderful country. Then I grew up. You wouldn’t believe half the shit I can tell you about corruption in Finland, but here’s something at least you’ll find challenging to refute, as there’s supreme court documents on it.

            https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html

            That article is about me. I have the original video to prove it. And that’s basically the mildest offence they did that day, and it only saw consequences because I actually had the video. The video and photos the cops had of everything magically vanished when I wanted them to be brought to court.

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              Youre genuinely asking me what some person I saw on TV thinks? How would I know? Even Professor X would have trouble reading someone’s mind through TV.

              I’m pointing how silly it was of him to laugh about it.

              The point is the blind faith in that there’s no corruption, which is kept up by corruption.

              It’s least corrupted country. It’s a comparative to other countries, always has been. If someone misunderstands that to mean that there’s no corruption then that’s on them.

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            You reported him based on him stating an opinion. I ought to ban you for making me click a button.

            Simply: the “report” button is not for this function. I am a lazy and malicious mod. Don’t make me do work.

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                I did browse his profile to see what you were getting at, and I couldn’t find anything supporting this claim. If you have examples, great - I am open-minded and willing to change a stance. I’m not, however, doing a deep dive into a Lemmy user’s past history. I don’t like virtual fishing expeditions, and found this kind of ‘gotcha-ism’ is what made Reddit so toxic.

                Further, even if this person is moderately pro-russian, as long as they aren’t actively condoning the invasion of Ukraine, or actually spreading propaganda, that’s ok in my book. People are welcome to their opinions, and there many, many, shades of grey.

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                  I’ll save you time. I’m Finnish, an NCO in the army reserves. I’ll DM you my sotilaspassi if you want to, lol.

                  He just simply doesn’t like me, and hasn’t the werewithall to actually compose an argument of any type. If you look at his profile, you’ll see it’s filled with “now I know you’re an X troll” comments. His lack of imagination is — as the kids say — cringe.

                  I’m in no way pro-Russian. I actually had a point in my comment. Something I can back up with legally documented personal experiences. I think he just simps Finland and doesn’t actually know what goes around here, so he leaves those asinine oneliners.

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                    No need for that. They are clearly and edgelord, and I’m calling them out on it. Don’t let this guy ruin your day.

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            Yeah. Must be.

            Can’t be that you, an American, would be ignorant of what is going on in other countries. That would simply be unheard of. /s

            Here’s some aftermath of my personal experience.

            https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html

            Obviously you’re gonna need to use a translator, as even though I can communicate in your language, you can’t do so in mine.

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        Technically, it isn’t clear if the crown could take back the rights given by them to parlaiment to govern the UK, but currently all decisions are handled by parlaiment including budget allotted to royals who are actually a net possitive from tourism.

        For any Tankies in here, Tourism is a thing where people come from far away to share their resources in order to experience food and culture. China unfortunately is such an oppressive and bleak place that nobody wants to go there unless they have to or if they’re doing so accidentally by not realizing what happened to Hong Kong.

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          My guess would be the crown can totally take those powers back, but then the monarchy would be quickly overthrown as their only accepted role these days is to look pretty, draw in tourism, and entertain foreign dignitaries.

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          Are these tankies in the room with us right now? Fuck the CCP, but we’re talking about the west right now, stop trying to divert attention.

          all decisions are handled by parlaiment

          Who is backed by the undemocratic FPTP system, extremely pro-establishment press owned by capitalists waging open class war and a literal house of “lords” who have direct and legal legislative influence, not even lobbying. Imagine if Elon musk could reject legislation. Yeah, democratic af.

          It’s a ruse you fell for, nothing more.

          who are actually a net possitive from tourism.

          Myth. Many countries do not have geriatrics riding around on golden thrones amidst record food bank use while having far more tourism than the UK, and I mean western European nations, not typical global south tourist destinations.

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            A reminder that the report button is not for ‘waaah I don’t like what you said’.

            Cracks knuckles idly

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          China unfortunately is such an oppressive and bleak place that nobody wants to go there unless they have to or if they’re doing so accidentally by not realizing what happened to Hong Kong.

          That’s counterfactual and undermines your argument, the amount of tourists from Japan, the US and EU alone is immense and I fear most of them know, but don’t give a shit about Hong Kong (though they really, really should).

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      This infographic is produced by a capitalist propaganda network, Visual Capitalist, using data from a capitalist think tank, EIU (Economic Intelligence Unit). I would download the report and scrutinize their methodology but it requires you enter a ton of personal information.

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      How the fuck made that chart that put USA on top of Brazil, here the president isn’t immune to prison just because he has money

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        The infographic was produced by a company called Visual Capitalist. Influence of money on the political process doesn’t factor into their calculations. Hell, it probably gives the score a boost.