If so, was it polled somewhere?

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    Pretty disappointing that @iamaqtpie is active on hexbear and says things like:

    Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that’s well underway over here.

    which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

    Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

    It’s clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it’s decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn’t this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn’t mean anything?

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      which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

      here’s the whole quote, emphasis mine:

      Hexbear is a Lemmy server that was created about 3 years ago as a new home for the former users of r/chapotraphouse. CTH was banned from reddit because they were openly calling for the deaths of slave owners, which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

      Why would you take this out of context, and what is your issue with the whole quote?

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        technically we were just expressing our support for US military action in the civil war and the song John Brown’s body. Which was an official song of the US army at one point.

        We were kicked off for our American patriotism if you think about it

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        The quote was to establish that the admins personal feelings are involved about the instance.

        It is an objective fact that the sub was banned on Reddit for hate speech. The rolling eyes emoji establishes the admins personal feelings on the subject.

        Whether the ban is justified or not is irrelevant to my point that SJW does not care to understand what its user base may want.

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        What are their standards for calling someone a slaveowner? Because if they’re the types I think they are they would include people who clearly don’t belong in that category

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      Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

      We are just better at democracy then you, sweety.

      xi-vote

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        That’s a highly suspicious use of a ban that I would like admin feedback on.

        While your take about decision making is slightly wrong…
        We’re federating with everything by default and use blocklists. Hexbear is fedetating with nobody by default and uses allowlists.
        Basically, no action has been made by local admins for this new federation to happen.
        We never had to defederate them before because they weren’t fedetating with us.

        The next step would be discussion then vote in the agora. I expect defederation to take a bit more than a week if the process hasn’t changed too much since last time.

        That said, your comment isn’t anywhere near ban worthy and is a really bad optics on whichever mod was involved in that.

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      It’s clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it’s decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn’t this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn’t mean anything?

      Make your own instance then, or move to another. That’s the lemmy solution.

      Lemmy isn’t about having each instance be its own democracy, lemmy is about having lots and lots and lots of instances forming one massive network. These will always be privately owned by the people hosting them, so it’s ultimately up to them how they run their shop. However, the barrier to entry is relatively low, so you can quite easily host your own and be on exactly the same footing.

      If you want to talk about community, then that’s literally what lemmy has instead of subreddits. That’s where the users make the rules. Granted, there aren’t sufficient mod tools to properly deal with anything - maybe when they introduce user-level instance blocking (coming soon ^TM ) they’ll also give us community-level instance blocking.

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      bad take, we are voting right now in agora about this. Are you ignorant of it or just shit stirring?