• Sibbo@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    20
    ·
    3 months ago

    Is this some contemporary soviet propaganda? I mean all the people who died for political reasons or because the state economy was mismanaged probably don’t care much about these achievements.

    • Alsephina@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      (To borrow from Cowbee’s comment a bit) Wealth inequality was far lower in the Soviet Union’s socialist system than the Tsarist system before it, the capitalist system after it was overthrown (obviously), and than western capitalist countries in the same time period.

      https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/soviets-oligarchs-inequality-and-property-russia-1905-2016

      Source

      • Arelin
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        No wonder then that 90% of the Soviet population voted to stay in the Union, but of course that didn’t stop its overthrow because capitalists had already taken it over by then.

        A poll in 2009

        As time passes though, the capitalist propaganda that kids in these places grow up with will probably start to outweigh the lived experiences of worsened living conditions after capitalists overthrew the USSR that their parents had. It’s sad.

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Funny you focus on whatever this is and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

        I’m here because my family escaped that shit.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          3 months ago

          Funny you focus on whatever this is

          Is it a bad thing to highlight that wealth disparity dramatically shrank in the USSR and dramatically increased in the Russian Federation?

          and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

          Are you referring to Nazi sympathizers, the Tsarist White Army, or Capitalist insurgents?

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              What “other tens of millions?” Where are you getting those numbers, the Black Book of Communism, which was debunked by its own writers?

              Must be easy to be a right-winger, you can conjure numbers out of thin-air and positions on vibes, rather than actually look at history in any capacity.

                • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  9
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Doesn’t seem like you care about any facts of history, lol, to the point where you call Nazis “innocents” and pretend the USSR had famines during the Space Race.

                  Read Blackshirts and Reds. Or, don’t, just remain a clueless right-winger rewriting history as the US Empire crumbles around you.

        • Tiltinyall@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          Mine too, it’s hard to call the dissolution of USSR illegal when it was initiated by people escaping Soviet bloc countries in droves.

        • Hovenko@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          15
          ·
          3 months ago

          Exactly. This is probably a moron who read about USSR on facebook. Those were horrible times full of oppression and corruption. I was raised in one of the sattelite countries and no. Those were bad very bad times unless you were a child of a small corrupted russian boot licker.

    • Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m sure homeless people and victims of the opioid crisis in the US also don’t care about US achievements in for example the olympics but people still talk about them.