I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don’t actually think everyone there is insane. I don’t care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It’s not going to scare me to take this down

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    23·
    3 months ago

    I think HB and some of the other groups are mostly trolls or Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean, or aligned operatives trying to gas up trolls or wannabe trolls.

    Do you have any evidence of that at all? Why would Hexbear remain as an isolated instance for 4 years then, only beginning federation in the last year?

    • ristoril_zipEnglish
      42·
      3 months ago

      Is your question why a propaganda operation focused on disrupting or presidential elections would “go live” 18-ish months before the presidential election?

      And are you asking if I have specific evidence that they’re trolls? Or that the governments I’ve listed have troll farms? Or that specifically HB is specifically rife with trolls from this governments’ farms? Because I definitely don’t have specific evidence. Just the historical evidence of (attempted) general interference from those countries in our previous elections.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        44·
        3 months ago

        Is your question why a propaganda operation focused on disrupting or presidential elections would “go live” 18-ish months before the presidential election?

        If your assumption that Hexbear is just bots and propaganda was true, why would it remain isolated for 4 years, with posters talking only to each other? 4 years of training? And, correction on your part, it started federating 10 months ago, not 18.

        It makes more sense for these to be people with genuine views and aligned interests.

        And are you asking if I have specific evidence that they’re trolls? Or that the governments I’ve listed have troll farms? Or that specifically HB is specifically rife with trolls from this governments’ farms? Because I definitely don’t have specific evidence. Just the historical evidence of (attempted) general interference from those countries in our previous elections.

        So you don’t, you’re just accusing people you disagree with of being propaganda agents and bots, despite them existing for 4 years in pure isolation. That’s silly.

        • ristoril_zipEnglish
          22·
          3 months ago

          Those poor people spending time only on HB for four years, never going anywhere else, never finding 4/8chan, never even finding reddit…