• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Democrats have been losing rural voters across the US since the 1960s,

    With the exception of 2008 when we ran a young charismatic candidate who had a progressive campaign…

    For some reason the DNC isn’t willing to let that happen again tho

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      Oh for fucks sake, just because she isn’t hard left doesn’t mean she doesn’t have progressive policies.

      She is on the same level as Obama.

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        A decade older when assuming office…

        Pro fracking…

        Against M4A…

        And her top performance in a dem primary was 1% of the vote.

        She’s a hell of a lot better than Biden and Hillary, but she sure as shit isn’t Obama

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          A decade older when assuming office…

          Obama was one of top youngest candidates though, she is more median

          Pro fracking…

          And she reversed her decision. A lot of things depends on the geopolitical situation. Since Russia decided to invade Ukraine, West placed sanctions on their oil and gas, but problem with energy is that it is inelastic. If there’s not enough the prices will skyrocket.

          So there’s need to satisfy current demand. This is also why push for EVs happened, to reduce our dependence on hydrocarbons.

          Also another option is that US could close the market and stop exporting, not that’s sure way to lose your allies.

          Against M4A…

          He did not manage to pass single payer though, so it is just promises

          And her top performance in a dem primary was 1% of the vote.

          Well trump campaign was hoping Biden stepping down would end up with infighting. This allowed to avoid that.

          It makes more sense as she is VP, she also can use Biden’s funds as it is also under her name and prevented infighting.

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            And she reversed her decision.

            Yes. When she got 1% of the primary vote she wanted to ban it

            Then as VP she cast the tiebreaking vote to expand domestic fracking.

            She 100% reserved her decision, but I don’t think you meant to be agreeing with me based on your tone…

            So there’s need to satisfy current demand.

            Most is sold overseas…

            Then you start switching between Obama and Harris and then just claim without reason Harris being is unpopular limits infighting?

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              She 100% reserved her decision, but I don’t think you meant to be agreeing with me based on your tone…

              I’m saying things aren’t always black and white and there are more things to consider. Remember when natural prices of gas spiked in 2020?

              https://www.macrotrends.net/2478/natural-gas-prices-historical-chart

              Most is sold overseas…

              Yes, and there’s a reason, I mentioned it on previous comment, but looks like you ignored it.

              Then you start switching between Obama and Harris and then just claim without reason Harris being is unpopular limits infighting?

              What?