Unlike the MAGA movement, which is led by a candidate who is defiantly amoral, post-liberalism is steeped in a revolutionary religiosity.

Most Americans havenā€™t heard of the post-liberal right, the small but influential group of conservative, mostly Catholic men who have declared that liberal democracy, the animating principle of Americaā€™s founding, hasĀ failedĀ and want to bring about a new social order where there is no separation of church and state and men and a hyperconservative Catholicism reign supreme. They are disdainful of secularism and individual liberty. Just like Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump illustrated during Tuesday nightā€™s debate against Vice President Kamala Harris, these menĀ idolizeĀ the authoritarian Viktor OrbĆ”n, the prime minister of Hungary.

Theyā€™re alsoĀ nostalgicĀ for Spain as it was run by the dictator Franco and see OrbĆ”nā€™s government and Francoā€™s as potential models for the kind of regime they wish to install in the United States. The groupā€™sĀ political prioritiesĀ ā€” which include restricting access to contraception and divorce and banning marriage equality and pornography ā€”Ā areĀ wildlyĀ unpopular. And yet the Republican nominee for vice president, my former friend JD Vance, isĀ a prominent voiceĀ of this fringe movement, as so many of his regrettable podcast interviews have demonstrated.

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    Opus Dei has had a huge influence on the post-liberal right movement. And you canā€™t get more tone deaf to really anything than Opus Dei. They donā€™t give a shit about context or history or regional/national concerns. They are the proverbial hammer that sees everything as a nail.

    I say the following not for you (the person Iā€™m replying to), but for others who may read thisā€¦

    Some people refer to the Catholic Church as a cult, but really the church is a broad umbrella of competing subgroups that share common beliefs yet approach most topics with pretty different perspectives (a great example being the more science-based Jesuits versus other anti-science and ultra-superstitious orders).

    That said, there are cults within the Catholic Church. And Opus Dei is probably the biggest and most extreme one. They want to impose their fanatical dogma not only on the rest of the church, but also on the world. They are a cancer on global society.

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      That said, there are cults within the Catholic Church. And Opus Dei is probably the biggest and most extreme one. They want to impose their fanatical dogma not only on the rest of the church, but also on the world. They are a cancer on global society.

      Opus Dei, Southern Baptist evangelicals, Scientologists, Zionist settlers, jihadist Muslims, whatever ā€“ all forms of religious fundamentalism are cancer and the theological differences between them are basically irrelevant.