The Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 months agoThe real culprit behind all fascist movementslemmy.mlimagemessage-square148fedilinkarrow-up1782arrow-down1198
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minus-squareUltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5·edit-22 months agoWouldn’t the state also be in the frame before the capitalist at the end?
minus-squareGarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up6·2 months agoI’m an ML but no, states are more fundamental than capitalism. There were states prior to capitalism and they will likely exist after capitalism, but capitalism cannot exist without a state as the special apparatus of class oppression.
minus-squareOurToothbrush@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 months agoAs an ML though you could argue that states are downstream of the economic circumstances that force their development
Wouldn’t the state also be in the frame before the capitalist at the end?
I’m an ML but no, states are more fundamental than capitalism. There were states prior to capitalism and they will likely exist after capitalism, but capitalism cannot exist without a state as the special apparatus of class oppression.
As an ML though you could argue that states are downstream of the economic circumstances that force their development
Yeah, you’re probably right