Norway is the world leader in EV sales, but now it's crossed a new landmark: the first country with more EVs than gas cars in service.
  • ObsidianZed@lemmy.world
    93·
    3 months ago

    Interesting. I’ve always heard the usual complaints of EVs being harder to start from cold temps and the battery not lasting as long when it’s cold.

    • troed@fedia.io
      37·
      3 months ago

      Harder to start? That sounds extremely weird - it’s electric :D I’ve never had such issues (Sweden, on my second EV) while ignition when really cold has always been problematic with my gas/diesel cars.

      Range goes down, yes. That’s true also for gas/diesel cars, but when the range is good enough we tend not to notice/care. My previous EV (Tesla Model 3 SR+) had lousy range both summer and winter (Tesla lies about their range) but in the winter it was indeed painful.

      The current one (VW ID.7) has about double the range and also performs as stated. I expect a 20% drop in range in the winter and that’s just fine.

      • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
        2·
        3 months ago

        This is good to know. Sweden’s climate is very close to where I live in the US (a little colder I think) and I know I’ve always thought the tech wasn’t there yet for places that actually have 4 seasons.

      • Imhotep@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 months ago

        Is it true it draws power to keep the battery warm when parked, and if so is it significant?

        • lemmyng@lemmy.caEnglish
          14·
          3 months ago

          Some models do precondition the battery. Of those that do, if you leave the vehicle unattended for months you would notice the drain. Not over a few days though, the power drain is negligible compared to what’s needed to drive, or the increased range loss of a colder battery.

          To put things in perspective: The average consumer EV can drive for 3–4 hours, but can power an entire household (including appliances) for 2 days.

        • troed@fedia.io
          2·
          3 months ago

          I haven’t owned it through winter (no ID.7 owner has tbh) but I don’t expect that to be an issue. It will only heat the battery if you schedule departure times.

          I’ve noticed no battery drain with the car parked otherwise.

            • troed@fedia.io
              2·
              3 months ago

              Ahh then I might know where it comes from. People who use Tesla’s Sentry mode don’t realize that it uses up several percent per night. Now, it does turn off automatically when the battery is at 20% but I know people who parked at an airport and didn’t have charge enough to get home when they got back because of this.

    • eltrain123@lemmy.world
      7·
      3 months ago

      That’s part of the disinformation campaign against competition for legacy auto and gas. There is a lot of money going into telling you the new option is worse…

      • ObsidianZed@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 months ago

        That’s fair. IMO though, the worst part are these half-assed OSes with OTA updates and software locked hardware.

        When I need a new vehicle, I’d like to go electric but I haven’t seen one that really like yet.