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    Ugly people make music all the time.

    You really gonna tell me Ed Sheeran is good looking? Post Malone?

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    Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what’s just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.

    As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.

    Anyone who says music sucks now doesn’t really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.

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        I have had a 50/50 success rates. The ones who are bad are REALLY bad. To make up for it, they crank the gain, volume, and distortion to 11 and just annihilate everyone’s eardrums.

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      Exactly. I wish these types of posts would change “music these days” to “pop these days” because that’s what they’re talking about.

      It’s debatable when pop actually began but pop as we know it really codified in the 80s with dawn of MTV and acts like Madonna and Michael Jackson. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, etc were popular but I wouldn’t classify any of this as Pop. Pop has always been pretty people because it was by its nature tied to a visual medium.

      People need to stop using Pop as a stand in for all music. We have more access to music than ever before and a lot of the music I listen to regularly, I have no idea what they look like.

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    Yea that’s why metal fuckin rules. We got the ugliest guys ever altogether in one room and said “what you got?” and they became legends

    And for anyone that might say that doesn’t happen anymore, I ask: how many open mic nights or $20 shows have you been to lately? The scene is doing great in my area, but it doesn’t happen by magic. Ya gotta support it, spread the word, bring your friends.

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      More of a hardcore guy myself but we’re equally as ugly so I stand in solidarity

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      Yeah, no kidding. I just bought tickets for a $15 show that has multiple bands and included a overseas band. I mentioned to them that they should’ve upped the prices to $20.

      Also: Sturgeon‘s law still applies: “90% of everything is crap“. Music is so amazingly easy to make these days you can do it on your phone (and I believe a Grammy nominated/winning album did so). Which means that there are literally thousands of albums every year, And so there will be a lot of crap. But between Bandcamp and Spotify and SoundCloud (and so on, even self-hosting), this is the freaking plutonium age if you like new music. There is literally so much that you can’t possibly keep up with it, even in sub genres. And there are some amazing gems coming out daily

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      Most of my favorite artists are beautiful tho… Mikael Akerfeldt, Alexi Laiho (RIP), Devin Townsend, Shagrath…

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    “Ugly” people still make music but apparently you don’t listen to it. Shameful, tbh.

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      I am convinced that producers go out with a company checkbook and standard boilerplate, find acts that have good songs, then buy the rights to those songs.

      They then give the songs to larger pop artists and never credit the original artist because there is no need. They likely pay well for a decent song.

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        They do.
        It’s extremely rare that people like Taylor Swift get as big as she is from writing her own songs.

        There are actual classes you can take on how to write pop songs, taught by people who made pop artists big.

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        One of the biggest examples of this for me was " even if it breaks your heart". I was pretty happy hearing a pop country song with decent lyrics, to find out it was written by Will Hoge and Eli Young Band bought the rights.

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      I had a luthier tell me how much was much better before the record. How artists would perform live and have to do their best in these performances.

      Once records came around all the artists sold out and it has been downhill from there.

      “Ok, can I have my guitar back, please…”

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      tbh we are all just snapshots of ourselves at different stage of the same cycle. The Simpsons did a whole thing about lolapalooza which starts with homer looking for his favourite artists in a record store, and the record store dude, and being directed to the oldies section.

      The bands that feature in that episode are the smashing pumpkins, soundgarden , cypress Hill and Peter Frampton, all of whom appear in Spotify old school lists

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        Oh sure, everything new becomes old eventually, that’s just how time works. I’m more poking fun at those who let their nostalgia determine what is worthwhile.

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      Why is it that most manufactured pop from before you were born still sounds good, but most manufactured pop after your 40s sounds irritating as fuck? Like, I could dig some “Charleston” from the 1920s but Ashley Simpson is barf-o-rama.

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    Lol, do you think only pop star music exist? It’s actually the contrary that happend. Now, more than ever, anyone can make music. This is a really bad take.

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      I think the actual take is probably closer to “I wish we went back to a time when record companies would take a bet on anyone, regardless of the overall package, looks etc”

      Which tbh, is probably more of a fairy tale view of years olden days than anything else.

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        Exactly. I don’t think it’s hard to see what OP meant here.

        And I think it’s still the case that they prefer certain types of people to push in the music industry

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        Yeah, by recycling a phrase so popular you can buy it on bumper stickers and tshirts and literally reposted from reddit r/showerthoughts six years ago.

        slow clap

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        Some kid on tiktok probably got 20k+ upvotes in the last 20 minutes for pissing in a MacDonald’s fryer or something. Does that make it quality content?

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            Not only do you have insanely idiotic takes on music, but you also have some of cringiest flex out there. Lol, I hope you’re not more then 12 because that’s really embarrassing. im14andthisisdeep level shit.

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              Imagine being an adult and repeatedly trying to argue on the internet with a 12 year old.

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                So you are 12 I knew it! I’m actually 13. Wanna hang out and listen to music? I have the new "Wheelchair Sports Camp " album, we can check it out!! (seriously look it up - the track Yes I’m a mess and Denim, love this shit).