Norway may put a fence along part or all of the 123-mile border it shares with Russia, a move inspired by a similar project in its Nordic neighbor Finland.
  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    7 hours ago

    “How does making things harder help at all”. Gee, I wonder.

    You’re still relying on guards actually responding and getting out to meet them,

    Well obviously, but now you also have a barrier to slow them down so those guards have more time to get there and make sure less people manage to get through. Again, the fence isn’t supposed to work alone but to compliment the other ways of stopping them/slowing them. You’re talking as if they’ve scrapped the border guards in favour of this instead of using this to make their work easier.

    • Sonori@beehaw.org
      11·
      7 hours ago

      Again, fences are like cheap locks, they are creating a social barrier to tell people not to pass, not a way of significantly reducing the speed at which someone who wants to will take in doing so.

      How many seconds do you think it takes a truck to drive through one, or someone to hop out of a truck to prop a ladder up against one? What else could be built or funded with the cost of building these expensive signs?

      If your going to spend massive amounts of money on securing a border, at least spend it on the things that actually have an impact, like more patrols and guard posts, not on more extensive signposting.

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
        2·
        7 hours ago

        Norwegian, Finnish and Polish border forces seem to disagree with your estimate on border fences and seem to think as them as valuable tools in addition to others they have. Those are the ones who have had to deal with this migrant issue.

        • Sonori@beehaw.org
          11·
          7 hours ago

          Is it the people actually studying effectiveness of preventing security threats from crossing borders, or the politicians and leaders who want to be seen as doing something visible to deal with the ‘migrant issue’ dispite the pure absurdity of suggesting that people who crossed continents will see a fence and just decide to stay illegally in Russia of all places?

          • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
            2·
            7 hours ago

            In Finland it was the border guards who were calling for this. Same for Poland. And it’s easy to see why since it can play an important part in controlling but also as a deterrent and help in knowing about illegal border crossing.