• index@sh.itjust.works
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        Both red and blue candidates owns multiple million-dollar properties. I believe you are missing the point of this meme

        Edit: I didn’t noticed the flag at first, for a moment i though people were finally realizing how much the system is rig but it’s just another political meme

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          Both red and blue candidates owns multiple million-dollar properties.

          The term “million dollar property” doesn’t mean anything to me. Every home in my area costs at least a million. That’s not mind-blowing wealth, that’s just homeownership these days.

          You’re also fucking wrong. Tim Walz is a blue candidate that I will vote for, and he’s got less of a net worth than I do (his $330k to my $360k), and only owns one modest home. Kamala Harris may be worth about $8M (with a single $5M home in L.A.), but that’s still not even 1%er territory, and still only a single property…

          The Republicans are firmly the party for billionaires like Elon Musk ($270B). If you can’t tell the difference between thousands, millions, and billions (or hundreds of billions) that’s your own stupid fault.

          Elon Musk is, and I’m not exaggerating, worth 820,000 times more than Tim Walz, and he’s all-in on Trump (who also claims to be a billionaire). If you want to fight back against the rich, learn math and pay attention to who has all the money.

          I didn’t noticed the flag at first

          Or the aerial shot of Mar-a-lago (worth $28M)

          PS: learn how to use tenses correctly.

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            Tim Walz is a blue candidate that I will vote for, and he’s got less of a net worth than I do

            Check their net worth again once you are paying him taxes, remember to do this.

            Kamala Harris may be worth about $8M (with a single $5M home in L.A.), but that’s still not even 1%er territory

            The average salary around the world is less than 1000$. 5 Millions in my country is enough to get half of the castle show in the picture.

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              Check their net worth again once you are paying him taxes, remember to do this.

              The salary of a VP is $284,600. His net worth will increase, but not by an absurd amount.

              5 Millions in my country is enough to get half of the castle show in the picture.

              I don’t see how that’s relevant, he won’t be VP of any country but the USA. However things work in the country you live in, take it up with your own leaders. And maybe bite your tongue about other countries’ politics if you neither understand or are affected by them.

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                Might as well stop now, that dude will keep moving the goal post. You had me convinced with your first message.

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                The salary of a VP is $284,600. His net worth will increase, but not by an absurd amount.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading

                I don’t see how that’s relevant, he won’t be VP of any country but the USA. However things work in the country you live in, take it up with your own leaders. And maybe bite your tongue about other countries’ politics if you neither understand or are affected by them.

                Being american making more than 1000$ a month you are already in the 1%

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      If the situation is the one described in the picture, not voting, not paying taxes and not playing the government game sounds like a fair decision.

      Edit: didn’t noticed the flag, i thought this was a meme describing society in general

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    naw. Fuedal is the tax guy shows up and demands payment. this is something else.

    Maybe it’s a Fin-dom kink?

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      I dunno, I feel like the hierarchical nature of feudalism is more core than tribute extraction. The lord needs the support of his loyal vassals, while the loyal vassals only need their lord insofar as they crave a ruler over themselves - or over their despised peers, for which they are willing to sacrifice money and dignity, and sometimes even their lives.

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        It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

        There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

        Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

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          It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

          Yet most fiefs during the height of feudalism were autarkic, and engaged in minimal trade, much less redistribution from their overlord.

          There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

          Considering how rampant brigandry was, dunno how valid that is. As for other feudal lords, those are, of course, the peers they despise.

          Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

          Land could not simply be revoked in most feudal systems, though, and was more often inherited than granted by the overlord.

          None of your points are wrong, necessarily, but I don’t think they’re major compared to the core pillar of “I trust my overlord to oppress me only a moderate amount, while I don’t trust my neighbors not to oppress me a much greater amount, so I would like it very much if my overlord would just oppress everyone. I’ll lick his boots for it.” It becomes especially apparent in Bastard Feudalism of England and in the later feudal system of Japan in which land revenue, rather than land itself, was what was granted to many warrior-vassals.

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        They still needed land, though. Trump’s promise of fossil capitalism might resemble that land, but the whole comparison shakes a bit.

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        I agree here. Feudalism to me was a system to maintain order by splitting the kingdom into essentially vassal states that worked relatively independently through a kings central government rules.

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    The funniest thing about this is Trump won’t stop grifting them. Every month is something new. Trump trading cards. Trump shoes. Trump NFTs. Like the moment Harris tries to sale me shoes, I’m out. But these people can’t afford medical care because their Republican state government cut their benefits, so now they are going to send money to a guy who is selling NFTs… Enough said.

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    This is something I see a lot with the houses that have Trump signs in my area. They always have a multitude of run down cars, a house that is falling apart, a bunch of stuff in their yard that are not lawn ornaments, and occasionally are fenced in. It’s pretty consistent and they always have Trump signs and flags even though voting for Harris would likely help them afford to fix up their cars or house.

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        Oh 100%, they don’t want minorities to benefit from it so they’d rather fuck themselves over than allow everyone to have a better standard of living.

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      Maybe it’s a post hoc ergo procter hoc, ie. the run down property, and voting for Trump, are both symptoms of the same thing: That life’s been hard, that they are in over their heads, and that nothing seems manageable anymore. (Doesn’t it sound an awful lot like undiagnosed neuro divergence?)

      Maybe voting for Trump initially was an f you to the intellectual elite that “are keeping them down”? After a while it became part of the identity. And now they may not have much going for them, but they have their savior Trump.

      I just noticed that both previous paragraphs starts with “maybe”, that wasn’t planned, but it doesn’t convey my own doubts.

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    Because he is convinced they are on the same team. He is just a temporaryly embarrassed millionaire. He might get his too. Spoiler, he won’t.

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      nah, he just wants to fuck over darker skinned people. that’s why he has the loser flag.

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      He is just a temporaryly embarrassed millionaire.

      If mental healthcare were more widespread, available and good quality, a lot more people would really be something like that. Many of them not embarrassed anymore.

      There are reasons our current time is so … overloaded with junk and depressed. A lot more threats to one’s mental health and triggers for otherwise less notable conditions have emerged, but everyone was like “it’s just the Internet, common sense doesn’t apply there, it’s all toys and not real”.

      My comments are a good example of someone who would be stronger (not a millionaire, I’m afraid of power) should they go offline completely. Quite lonely though and unable to scream out my opinions about civilization going to hell at least in text T_T.

      There’s such thing as critique. We usually talk about it as something good. The issue is - in society there’s your side and the other side. It’s just life and humanity. When you allow yourself to feel too much shame and guilt, or allow your approval of actions of your group to replace your own action, dropping your own “me” and the responsibility of that “me” stemming from there being no justification for your position except your decision only - you lose.

      Parents 20 years ago would teach their children to say “no” and to stand tall, but they didn’t have to explain how it scales for Internet echo chambers because there were none. Ultimately there’s only you. You can’t do anything, even think, without taking full responsibility. Internet communities make that appear contested, but in reality it isn’t.

      That’s the most important problem of our time. The rest people standing tall and taking responsibility for everything they do will fix.

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    Honestly even with the current situation, I’m seeing call for donations and aid to the affected States who have been hit hard this week. But I think to myself, why should I help these people when they are voting for politicians who are literally refusing federal aid, cause they don’t want to look like they’re accepting Biden’s help. Now my poor ass is s donating to people who are refusing aid at the same time. I hate it

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      That’s kind of narrow minded of you, not every person in the south is a trump loving conservative. That’s the same kind of thinking they have when wildfires affect California, or pandemics hit cities more than rural areas, you have to be better than them and more open-minded.

      Also Asheville, which is now flooded, is one of the most hippy liberal cities in the country.

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        I confirm that ashville is super hippy. If ypu havent been there then im sorry for your loss

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      Because despite political bullshit there are good people suffering. And even if you dont see some of them as good they are people and dont deserve the arbitrary harsh treatment only imagined in polarized social media echo chambers.

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        Is it arbitrary if they voted for the situation they find themselves in politically and financially in the wake of a disaster that would otherwise have been eased by the social programs they abhorred until needed?

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          So easily radicalized? You cant know the “proper people” are dying to your satisfaction, you asshole. This is what devisive disinformation does to people on social media; you are practically advocating for the death of people that MIGHT be against your political beliefs. Look farther than your computer screen. Be a human being.

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    Just a variation of the Prosperity Gospel. They think they will become rich if they just give this rich guy more money.

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    Dunno, the first photo seems a nice place to live except for the racist flag.

    But then it’s probably not a big chance to get a girlfriend or an interesting job while living there.

    But then again, girls are strange - some of them care about glossy appearances less than they seem to, and jobs are strange - some of the pretty good ones can be remote. Both may not work too well with that flag though.

    I’d say without the flag I’d choose the first picture. I like nature. The second picture causes some kind of nausea I can’t describe.