• BombOmOm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1412·
    1 year ago

    I’m amused by the implication that Russians and Ukrainians have a strong, brotherly bond; but that Russians are perfectly fine with shooting their brothers, taking their brother’s land. Even the cheery Russian propaganda paints Russians as monsters.

    • volodymyr@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      1 year ago

      They are saying that they only destroy westernised deviations, liberating true pure Great Russia. Some Russians really believe that. Turns out this “deviation” is the entire Ukrainian nation, tens of millions of humans.

      • Muehe@lemmy.mlEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        Considering that the second story in the bible is about the first brother to ever exist being killed by the second one, maybe it is. /s

      • volodymyr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        It is just a very unequal brotherly relation. And big brother just cannot accept he is not welcome.

  • spite@kbin.social
    971·
    1 year ago

    Jesus Christ. What fucking bond? My fiancée is Ukrainian. They fucking hate Russians. Not just now but always. They tried fucking with Ukraine for forever, even before there was Ukraine as it is now.

    This is just weeb shit but for slavic nations

    • volodymyr@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      1 year ago

      I am ukrainian and I confirm.

      There are brotherly ties, relatives, but it’s not a healthy family, russians always thought they are the only ones that matter, the rest is deviation.

      Now it’s so much more clear, ukrainians who were russian speaking and mildly russian friendly now hate russia more than anyone, being bombarded does that, they feel betrayed.

      • Barbarian@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        19·
        1 year ago

        Got a Ukrainian family friend from the east side of Ukraine, spoke Russian as her primary language and knew some Ukrainian.

        Once the invasion started, she vowed to never speak Russian again and spent months trying to get fluent in Ukrainian.

    • BleatingZombie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      181·
      1 year ago

      I knew a Ukrainian in ~2016 who was SUPER into Russia. He and his family all spoke Russian more frequently than anything else and would talk about Russia all the time. I didn’t understand it, but kind of assumed it was the norm. The last couple of years have made me very curious about him

      • volodymyr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        1 year ago

        Plenty of ukrainians speak russian at least sometimes. Even now. Freely. It is possible to speak russian in Ukraine more freely than to speak russian in totalitarian Russia.

        Some ukrainians liked russia, most of them stopped. Some might still do, but out of hundreds I know, from east and west, north and south, not a single one does.

    • Ataraxia@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      I had a weird coworker that claimed to be Ukrainian and is married to a Russian woman. Mysteriously had to go see his dying family member right before it all started and he has not been heard from again. I just feel like he was some kind of weird Russian spy or something. He would call her 10 times during his shift and spoke in Russian and had an air of manipulative “kindness” that made you really wonder what the fuck this guy was involved with.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      hell don’t most people around russia detest the country? like even if two countries with slavic influence hate each other they will probably shake hands on hating russia more…

  • fox2263@lemmy.worldEnglish
    49·
    1 year ago

    That last sentence got me.

    I bet they think Israel and Palestine are happy friends too

  • vettnerk@lemmy.mlEnglish
    26·
    1 year ago

    I have an unhealthy fascination with far right shit heads, chief among them Alex Jones. And as an avid listener of Knowledge Fight I can tell you that the predictions once the invasion started didn’t just age like milk; Enough cheese was made to feed the entire sub-saharan subcontinent.