Maybe, maybe not. Their post history doesn’t imply to me anything other than that they feel strongly about the subject. A glance through their post history doesn’t suggest otherwise to me, but I tend to give broad leeway for lengthier time periods.
Hi, thanks so much for your kind words. I’m working on finding a sweet spot between healthy skepticism and cynicism, kindness and gullibility. It’s tricky, and both cause unnecessary suffering, for all parties involved. While I’d prefer to be inerrant, that’s not very realistic, since I’m human. I’m learning, and that means mistakes. Thank you again for your kind words.
Humans are, inherently, messy. Plenty of terrible people have done good things, whether they meant to or not, whether their motive was good or not. Its just the reality.
Its why all we can do is try to be the best we can be, but we all have to look at how people act and make our best judgment.
I entirely missed their antisemitic comments in a wall of text with lots of other right wing propaganda mixed in, and someone else highlighted it.
Its these talking points, which are intended to confuse and misdirect people who do want better, that you also need to be aware of to accurately identify.
And it sucks.
Maybe one day things will be better. I hope so. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will while certain individuals/parties/leaders use all kinds of nefarious means to spread their hate.
Their wording could have been much better. I’m thinking “hasbara,” but their wording was awful. But again, some people don’t know what hasbara is. Yes, that’s stretching it, I really should go look at their post history in detail.
Blue maga, antifa as a violent organization, the “Hebrew school” comment, the claims of supporting genocide when trump definitely would go for more, etc, that’s all right wing talking points.
I’m not Jewish, but learned the dradel and a few words, so if I remember right hasbara is explaining-ish? by the state, kind of a propaganda approach. Which yes, what Israel is doing is terrible IMO. I showed my wife yesterday a picture of an area of been to that was a bombed out shell of nothing. The people in Beirut were incredibly nice to me when I went there for work some years back, and knowing some of the area that was bombed just adds to the horrors - and I barely visited.
That doesn’t excuse any of the other behavior, and the right wing talking points especially.
Hi, I’m about five or six mobile device pages in their comments, now. Antifa most certainly can be violent, but it largely depends on circumstances, or maybe I’m conflating the antifa activists who also participate in Black Bloc, or maybe they’ve just calmed down a bit here in the USA since they first blipped onto my radar maybe 30 years ago.
At any rate, he seems to be more moderate than me since I have nothing bad to say about Antifa or Black Bloc, in my recollection of anything that’s made news, but I could be forgetting stuff. Thirty years is a long time.
I haven’t seen anything else that suggests antisemitism, so far, either. “So far” being key. I’ve been accused of RW talking because I’m definitely voting third party or not at all. I also definitely see his points, although emotion seems to have gotten the better of him. It happens. When I was leaning towards voting Harris, it got the best of me, and I made shill accusations too. Then the news and the photographs kept coming and kept coming. I was accused of being antisemitic when I started vocally criticizing Operation Razor’s edge, too, relentlessly, and used to become upset and almost started speaking out. That’s when a Jewish friend of mine pulled me aside and explained hasbara (it’s not explaining, it’s excusing the inexcusable, so yes, propaganda), and back then what was known as the IDF (Internet Defense Force). Mossad and USA right wing Jewish activists monitor media and real life, and quickly activate when criticism is detected. This was about the time people were heavily berating Noam Chomskey, JVP, Mondoweisse and the reform Jewish Temple clergy and members who spoke out against Palestinian genocide, and before the BDS movement began or maybe around the time it did, as antisemites and self-hating Jews.
Anyway, the word choice was terrible, I’m not that deep into his comments, yet. If I see others, I’ll come back and correct myself. The first glance was a glance, but I plan to look through several more pages. Have a good evening and thanks again for your kindness to me.
The person being replied to earlier is specifically responding in bad faith, their intent is to paint antifa as a single org.
Maybe, maybe not. Their post history doesn’t imply to me anything other than that they feel strongly about the subject. A glance through their post history doesn’t suggest otherwise to me, but I tend to give broad leeway for lengthier time periods.
Considering the antisemitic comment, the blaming of antifa for actions where right wing instigators were found, the promotion of spoiler candidates…
I’m going to have to strongly disagree with your perspective. If they felt strongly about it, they’d know more about the third parties they reference.
But they dont. You can give them that leeway of course, but I’m not going to.
Edit: Other folks browsing, don’t down vote Maeve because they want to see the better of people. That’s generally a good thing.
Hi, thanks so much for your kind words. I’m working on finding a sweet spot between healthy skepticism and cynicism, kindness and gullibility. It’s tricky, and both cause unnecessary suffering, for all parties involved. While I’d prefer to be inerrant, that’s not very realistic, since I’m human. I’m learning, and that means mistakes. Thank you again for your kind words.
Humans are, inherently, messy. Plenty of terrible people have done good things, whether they meant to or not, whether their motive was good or not. Its just the reality.
Its why all we can do is try to be the best we can be, but we all have to look at how people act and make our best judgment.
I entirely missed their antisemitic comments in a wall of text with lots of other right wing propaganda mixed in, and someone else highlighted it.
Its these talking points, which are intended to confuse and misdirect people who do want better, that you also need to be aware of to accurately identify.
And it sucks.
Maybe one day things will be better. I hope so. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will while certain individuals/parties/leaders use all kinds of nefarious means to spread their hate.
Their wording could have been much better. I’m thinking “hasbara,” but their wording was awful. But again, some people don’t know what hasbara is. Yes, that’s stretching it, I really should go look at their post history in detail.
Blue maga, antifa as a violent organization, the “Hebrew school” comment, the claims of supporting genocide when trump definitely would go for more, etc, that’s all right wing talking points.
I’m not Jewish, but learned the dradel and a few words, so if I remember right hasbara is explaining-ish? by the state, kind of a propaganda approach. Which yes, what Israel is doing is terrible IMO. I showed my wife yesterday a picture of an area of been to that was a bombed out shell of nothing. The people in Beirut were incredibly nice to me when I went there for work some years back, and knowing some of the area that was bombed just adds to the horrors - and I barely visited.
That doesn’t excuse any of the other behavior, and the right wing talking points especially.
Hi, I’m about five or six mobile device pages in their comments, now. Antifa most certainly can be violent, but it largely depends on circumstances, or maybe I’m conflating the antifa activists who also participate in Black Bloc, or maybe they’ve just calmed down a bit here in the USA since they first blipped onto my radar maybe 30 years ago.
At any rate, he seems to be more moderate than me since I have nothing bad to say about Antifa or Black Bloc, in my recollection of anything that’s made news, but I could be forgetting stuff. Thirty years is a long time.
I haven’t seen anything else that suggests antisemitism, so far, either. “So far” being key. I’ve been accused of RW talking because I’m definitely voting third party or not at all. I also definitely see his points, although emotion seems to have gotten the better of him. It happens. When I was leaning towards voting Harris, it got the best of me, and I made shill accusations too. Then the news and the photographs kept coming and kept coming. I was accused of being antisemitic when I started vocally criticizing Operation Razor’s edge, too, relentlessly, and used to become upset and almost started speaking out. That’s when a Jewish friend of mine pulled me aside and explained hasbara (it’s not explaining, it’s excusing the inexcusable, so yes, propaganda), and back then what was known as the IDF (Internet Defense Force). Mossad and USA right wing Jewish activists monitor media and real life, and quickly activate when criticism is detected. This was about the time people were heavily berating Noam Chomskey, JVP, Mondoweisse and the reform Jewish Temple clergy and members who spoke out against Palestinian genocide, and before the BDS movement began or maybe around the time it did, as antisemites and self-hating Jews.
Anyway, the word choice was terrible, I’m not that deep into his comments, yet. If I see others, I’ll come back and correct myself. The first glance was a glance, but I plan to look through several more pages. Have a good evening and thanks again for your kindness to me.