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@khalidabuhakmeh I was expecting this toot from you 🕺 I still wonder which one is the real jetbrains account below, anyway it would not hurt mentioning more accounts, this is a good news
I like PyCharm, but that as the first line of the post makes me nervous as hell.
Because it says AI?
I know it’s currently trendy to show consternation when the topic is brought up, and yes, every service and app is currently milking the AI hype, but what do you expect, really? The technology is not going anywhere, it can already do amazing things and will continue to improve. All we can do is deal with the issues and steer it in the right direction, pretty soon we will not consider it any more spectacular than the calculator in Windows 3.11 and we will look at our past interfacing with computers as primitive.
Yes, mentioning AI in a context where it adds literally nothing to the conversation is a bad thing. AI is exactly none of GitHub’s value.
LLMs are dogshit tech that doesn’t scale.
Because nobody is using Co-pilot happily?
It’s irrelevant whether it scales or not. Your insinuation that this is all a pointless endeavor destined for failure is incredibly short-sighted.
Zero people are on GitHub because of Copilot.
It’s not irrelevant whether it scales. It’s astronomical power use to lower both of software development quality and efficiency, with no path to getting better because brute force doesn’t work.
We’ll eventually have actual AI. It absolutely will not come from an LLM.
Zero people were on the internet because of Google. Zero people were into photography because of digital sensors. And zero people took the trip to work because of cars.
Ridiculous argument.
It is irrelevant because it is a straw man. They didn’t say LLM, they said AI.
Like I said, it’s really trendy to go “LLM’s just predict the next letter!”, but please get over yourself, this is not an insightful argument but just chest beating and pedantry over nothing.
LLMs are what you’re advocating for, because it’s what Copilot is. It doesn’t lead to better software, it doesn’t lead to more efficient development, and it doesn’t have a meaningful path to improvement because it’s already obscenely far beyond diminishing returns. All for obscene energy draws to zero benefit.
I was afraid you’d say this, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. It doesn’t matter what copilot is, you tripped over the word “AI”, then reduced it to LLM’s, and are now full circle by saying copilot is an LLM.
I think my original response to you was that you were short sighted in your argument, and this latest comment just underlines that you have issues with what AI is now, not what it is becoming.
Eventually it will be all we need to write software.
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I’ve gotten plenty benefit out of LLM’s, and millions of people with me, maybe you’re doing it wrong? Why do you think this absurd amount of power usage can be justified? Don’t you think interest and actual usage are the reason?
That’s the “AI” GitHub uses, that they’re referring to, that is a stronger reason not to use their platform than to use it.
Every attempt to demonstrate that LLMs improve productivity in software development fails miserably and shows that it doesn’t do that. It’s not capable of doing that.
The entire point of code is to clearly and effectively communicate what you want. It is easier and more efficient than using natural language, once you learn. If you can’t communicate your desires through the language of code, you will do a worse job with natural language, because natural language is imprecise by definition.
It can’t be justified. It’s a pure speculative bubble that every company in the space is burning ridiculous piles of cash on in hopes that they eventually land a moonshot that makes their product better than dogshit.