• otp@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 hours ago

    Ok, but your original comment was pretty much a non-sequitor.

    Saying that it’s bad to say that those groups of people are bad doesn’t mean that anyone is saying that those groups of people are good as a simple answer. But frankly, saying those groups are good is probably a better answer than saying they’re bad.

    We have homophobes, misogynists, and ableists, so there are definitely people who explicitly think those groups are bad.

    Meanwhile, the people advocating for the rights of those groups are not saying that all people in those groups are virtuous and can do no wrong… they’re advocating for equal rights and opportunities.

    Besides. I’m fine with “women are good” being the starting point rather than “women are bad”…lol

    • Ogmios@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 hours ago

      It’s only a non-sequitur if you hyperfixate on the part inside quotes while ignoring the central thrust: That attempting to reduce large populations down to simple catch phrases will never end well in the long run. Too many people argue fervently over how we should label broad segments of society, to the point that they attack anyone suggesting that they shouldn’t be doing that by assuming those people must just want the opposite, but equally reductive, perspective to be true.